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[Bug 11557] Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default

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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:34:24 +0000
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11557

--- Comment #41 from Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com> 2012-03-13 07:34:16 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #40)
> (In reply to comment #33)
> > <button role=button aria-pressed=true> should not do anything different than
> > <button aria-pressed=true> according to the ARIA spec as far as I can tell
> > (that's what the "implicit semantics" stuff is all about!). If it does, ARIA
> > should be fixed.
> 
> Ian, you're misunderstanding the role of ARIA in the DOM. Redundant ARIA is
> really helpful for supporting existing ATs and it's quite handy for exposing
> data easily with JS libraries.

Perhaps you've misunderstood what Ian is saying in your quotation.

Steve is saying that in current implementations, role="button" in that markup
is *not* redundant since you need it to make "aria-pressed" work. If you omit
role="button", then the button is not reported as pressed in the accessibility
tree. Ian is saying that it *should* work even if you omit role="button", since
ARIA allows host languages to define implicit ARIA semantics on elements and
attributes, and HTML5 defines button as having the implied semantic of role
button, so "aria-pressed" should apply to it the same way.

So there's a question here about how ARIA annotations do and should behave
beyond the question of whether we should allow redundant markup.

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