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Re: Drop longdesc, get aria-describedat?

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 23:02:34 +0100
To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Cc: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20120307230234505475.9b822a6f@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Janina Sajka, Wed, 7 Mar 2012 20:41:51 +0000:

>>>>> Question: Is there a chance that "we could do" @aria-describedat *now*? 
>>>>> I am convinced that the chances for a amicable solution would increase 
>>>>> greatly if one could move from talk to action with regard to 
>>>>> @aria-describedat.
>>>> 
>>>> You're asking the core question, imho. I wish we could simply say "yes"
>>>> and be done with it, 
>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately, ARIA-DescribedAt doesn't exist anywhere except on our "To
>>>> Do" list.
>>> 
>>> So, the process is the reason we can't say 'use @aria-describedat' ...
> 
> Heavens, no! 
> 
> Explain to me, if you think the process is at fault, why we should drop
> everything currently in process to create a substitute for 
> somethingthat already exists. Please explain this wisdom, because it 
> sounds like folly to me.

I subsequently proposed that we write a separate specification for 
@aria-describedAT/@longdesc. So rather than drop it, I suggest to run 
with it.

Could we do that? We would have to make a change proposal which 
includes - or eventually promises [I'm not sure what the chairs woudl 
want] - a specification of '@aria-describedAT/@longdesc'.

I see 2-3 options of such a mini-spec - but there could be more:

* Either the spec describes aria-describedAT - and obsoletes @longdesc

* Or the spec describes aria-describedAT - and says that @longdesc can 
be used, whenever aria-describedAT is used as well.

* Or we write a spec which defines @longdesc as an ARIA attribute - to 
be used as you have envisioned @aria-descrbedAT. [Thus, we would drop 
aria-descrbedat and only have @longdesc.]
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Leif Halvard Silli
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