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Re: [text] Why HTML5 urgently needs an HTML adaptive images mechanism

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:44:08 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOavpvfx_M9ED+ejRvAJHbBndT8xysT6MM8bxMWDfA-2JLd3dg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Silvia,

> Note that there was already a proposal to the HTML WG from the
> responsive images CG:
> http://www.w3.org/community/respimg/wiki/Picture_Element_Proposal

Yes, Mat Marquis posted a message to the HTML WG.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0105.html

Best Regards,
Laura

> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Laura Carlson
> <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For the HTML Accessibility Task Force info:
>>
>> "Why HTML5 urgently needs an HTML adaptive images mechanism"
>> By Bruce Lawson.
>> "...Webkit has implemented a new non-standard CSS function called
>> -webkit-image-set...I bet it's 0.03 nanoseconds before developers
>> convert <img src="foo.blah" alt="useful alternate text"> into an empty
>> <div>s with adaptive background images using -webkit-image-set and
>> (please!) a fallback background images for non-webkit browsers. Why
>> wouldn't they? Retina screens will download massive but beautiful
>> images, while users of lower-res phones save bandwidth by downloading
>> smaller images instead of huge images and then reducing them down.
>> Problem solved. And, unfortunately, people who don't download images,
>> or can't perceive images won't get any alternate text, as there is no
>> content <img> element any more. Those guys have always been last in
>> the pecking order and there's no reason to assume they'll get a better
>> deal this time."
>> http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2012/html5-urgently-needs-adaptive-images-mechanism/
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Laura
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Laura Carlson
>> <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just an FYI as I'm not sure how many task force members have been
>>> following the copious  discussions regarding the topic of responsive
>>> images on the WHATWG mailing list*. There have been proposals for
>>> <picture>, @srcset, and now <pic>. Ian added  a new attribute called
>>> "srcset" to the WHATWG HTML spec in May. Today,  David Singer started
>>> a thread [1] regarding  alt text.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> [1]  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Jun/0019.html
>>>
>>> *WHATWG Responsive Images Discussions:
>>>
>>> Fallback for <picture>
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012May/thread.html#msg216
>>>
>>> Throwing in my support for <picture> into the mix
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012May/thread.html#msg312
>>>
>>> An alternative to <picture> and srcset, is this realistic?
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012May/thread.html#msg237
>>>
>>> <picture>, `img set`, and polyfills
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012May/thread.html#msg243
>>>
>>> Features for responsive Web design
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012May/thread.html#msg247
>>> Ian added  a NEW ATTRIBUTE called "srcset" to the WHATWG HTML spec:
>>> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/embedded-content-1.html#attr-img-srcset
>>>
>>> <picture> / <img srcset> not needed
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012May/thread.html#msg291
>>>
>>> Correcting some misconceptions about Responsive Images
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012May/thread.html#msg299
>>>
>>> Media queries, viewport dimensions, srcset and picture
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012May/thread.html#msg552
>>>
>>> The <pic> element
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Jun/thread.html#msg1
>>>
>>> Also:
>>> Responsive Images Community Group:
>>> http://www.w3.org/community/respimg/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Laura L. Carlson
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Laura L. Carlson
>>



-- 
Laura L. Carlson
Received on Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:44:38 UTC

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