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Minutes from HTML-A11y Bug Triage Telecon, January 3rd

From: Hans Hillen <hans.hillen@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:16:06 +0100
Message-Id: <0D847E29-2887-4780-A305-6C49EF626A26@gmail.com>
To: public-html-a11y@w3.org
Hi all, 

Here are the minutes for today's bug triage call: http://www.w3.org/2012/01/03-a11y-bugs-minutes.html

The text only version can be found at http://www.w3.org/2012/01/03-a11y-bugs-minutes.html,text and is also included at  the end of this message.

Regards,

Hans Hillen, 
Accessibility Consultant / Developer
TPG Europe 

Text Only Minutes: 

  [1]W3C

     [1] http://www.w3.org/

                              - DRAFT -

                    HTML-A11y Bug Triage telecon

03 Jan 2012

  [2]Agenda

     [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0331.html

  See also: [3]IRC log

     [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/01/03-a11y-bugs-irc

Attendees

  Present
  Regrets
         Léonie_Watson, Joshue_O_Connor, Marco_Ranon, Gez_Lemon

  Chair
         Michael_Cooper

  Scribe
         hhillen

Contents

    * [4]Topics
        1. [5]New bugs review
        2. [6]Actions review
        3. [7]Needs more info bugs
        4. [8]Won't fix bugs
        5. [9]Fixed bugs
    * [10]Summary of Action Items
    _________________________________________________________

  <scribe> scribe: hhillen

New bugs review

  <MichaelC>
  [11]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced
  &short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=HTML+WG&longdesc
  _type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_
  file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&k
  eywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailty
  pe2=substring&email2=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_id=&votes=&chfiel

    [11] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=HTML+WG&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_id=&votes=&chfiel

  <MichaelC>
  dfrom=-4w&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug+creation]&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype
  =doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=n
  oop&value0-0-0=

  MC: I did a search of new bugs in the past 4 weeks , Everett did you
  look at new bugs?

  EZ: I did, nothing really jumped out at me

  <MichaelC>
  [12]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&k
  eywords=a11ytf&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&resolution=NE
  EDSINFO

    [12] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&keywords=a11ytf&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&resolution=NEEDSINFO

  MC: This is pretty much the same set of needs info bugs we have been
  looking at so far
  ... They're all assigned

  EZ: That deadline in January isn' t very practical

  MC: Leonie is trying to do some individual follow up for bug owners

Actions review

  HH: The above notes applied to this item

Needs more info bugs

Won't fix bugs

  <MichaelC>
  [13]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&k
  eywords=a11ytf&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&resolution=WO
  NTFIX

    [13] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&keywords=a11ytf&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&resolution=WONTFIX

  MC: There are 82 bugs in won't fix state
  ... We identified some high priority wont fix bugs for the task
  force to push back on
  ... That didn't work out so well, most of the chosen bugs we already
  turned into issues, or belonged to bigger sets of bugs
  ... Should we take the reverse approach, filter out the low priority
  bugs?

  EZ: Wouldn't that leave us with the same list?

  MC: If bugs are related to an existing tracker issue (which is
  hopefully shown in the bug), then we should add comments to both the
  bug and the issue to clarify their connection
  ... That's how we can help them trying to group bugs into one
  tracker issue
  ... Hopefully we can propose the creation of just a few new issue,
  even if many bugs are assigned to those issues
  ... We could burn conference time and go through all these bugs, or
  we could make it homework assigments

  EZ: We should use the conference time to at least do a high level
  grouping of the bugs

  [14]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6496

    [14] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6496

  HH: Related to Issue 31

  [15]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8716

    [15] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8716

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [16]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827

    [16] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [17]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9061

    [17] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9061

  MC: Related to Canvas

  [18]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9098

    [18] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9098

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [19]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9212

    [19] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9212

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [20]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215

    [20] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [21]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216

    [21] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [22]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9415

    [22] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9415

  MC: Related to conformance

  [23]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10438

    [23] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10438

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [24]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10444

    [24] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10444

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [25]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10448

    [25] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10448

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [26]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10449

    [26] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10449

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [27]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10451

    [27] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10451

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [28]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10452

    [28] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10452

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [29]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10455

    [29] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10455

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [30]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10462

    [30] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10462

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [31]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10482

    [31] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10482

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [32]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10642

    [32] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10642

  MC: Related to media

  [33]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10708

    [33] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10708

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [34]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10782

    [34] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10782

  MC: Related to accesskey

  [35]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10831

    [35] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10831

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [36]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10853

    [36] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10853

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [37]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10873

    [37] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10873

  MC: Related to tooltip vs title

  [38]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10903

    [38] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10903

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [39]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10906

    [39] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10906

  MC: Related to conformance

  [40]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10914

    [40] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10914

  MC: Related to ARIA

  [41]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10967

    [41] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10967

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [42]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10994

    [42] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10994

  MC: Related to text access key

  [43]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11140

    [43] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11140

  MC: Related to text access key

  [44]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11240

    [44] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11240

  MC: Related to canvas

  [45]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11593

    [45] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11593

  MC: Related to media

  [46]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12306

    [46] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12306

  MC: Related to canvas

  [47]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12546

    [47] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12546

  MC: Related to media

  [48]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12545

    [48] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12545

  MC: Related to media

  [49]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12590

    [49] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12590

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [50]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12906

    [50] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12906

  MC: Related to canvas

  [51]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12985

    [51] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12985

  MC: Related to feature request

  [52]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13275

    [52] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13275

  MC: Related to media

  [53]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13333

    [53] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13333

  MC: Related to media

  [54]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13390

    [54] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13390

  MC: Related to conformance

  [55]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13428

    [55] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13428

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [56]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13429

    [56] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13429

  MC: Related to text contenteditable

  [57]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13430

    [57] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13430

  MC: Related to feature request

  [58]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13434

    [58] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13434

  MC: Related to media

  [59]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13435

    [59] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13435

  MC: Related to media

  [60]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13436

    [60] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13436

  MC: Related to media

  [61]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13442

    [61] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13442

  MC: Related to conformance

  [62]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449

    [62] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [63]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13451

    [63] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13451

  MC: Related to feature request

  [64]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13460

    [64] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13460

  MC: Related to feature request

  [65]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13461

    [65] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13461

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [66]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13512

    [66] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13512

  MC: Related to feature request

  [67]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13513

    [67] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13513

  MC: Related to feature request (i.e. misc)

  [68]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13524

    [68] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13524

  MC: Related to drag & drop

  [69]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13541

    [69] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13541

  MC: Related to ARIA mapping

  [70]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13544

    [70] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13544

  MC: Related to media

  [71]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13546

    [71] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13546

  MC: Related to media

  [72]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13548

    [72] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13548

  MC: Related to conformance

  [73]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13552

    [73] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13552

  MC: Related to misc

  [74]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13553

    [74] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13553

  MC: Related to misc

  [75]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13561

    [75] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13561

  MC: Related to conformance for user agents

  [76]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13566

    [76] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13566

  MC: Related to misc

  [77]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572

    [77] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572

  Related to keyboard access (previously known as access key)

  [78]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13573

    [78] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13573

  Related to keyboard access

  [79]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13575

    [79] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13575

  Related to keyboard access

  [80]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13624

    [80] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13624

  Related to media

  [81]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13637

    [81] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13637

  Related to media

  [82]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13638

    [82] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13638

  Related to medi

  s medi/conformance/

  s /medi/conformance/

  [83]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13639

    [83] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13639

  Related to conformance

  [84]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13650

    [84] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13650

  Related to feature request

  [85]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13651

    [85] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13651

  Related to text alternatives

  [86]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13655

    [86] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13655

  MC: Related to misc

  [87]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13668

    [87] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13668

  MC: Related to misc

  [88]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13692

    [88] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13692

  MC: Related to media

  [89]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13693

    [89] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13693

  MC: Related to misc

  [90]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13727

    [90] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13727

  MC: Related to text alternatives

  [91]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14107

    [91] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14107

  MC: Related to misc

  [92]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14419

    [92] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14419

  MC: Related to canvas

Fixed bugs

  MC: DO we need to split up the list of fixed bugs as homework as
  well?

  EZ: We're not likely to finish that this week

  MC: Let's do that next week then, the wont fix bugs are more
  important anyway

Summary of Action Items

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