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Fwd: Split Issue 30?

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:59:56 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+VmbXV5by_c8j1_XRhF2DniNccRKvc5MbaEmuOdnTyOApg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Cc: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com>
Hi all,

suggest it would be useful for someone with the requisite knowledge of
the various ARIA spec responds on the html wg to Bens questions:


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
Date: 13 February 2012 20:57
Subject: Re: Split Issue 30?
To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, Charles Pritchard
<chuck@jumis.com>, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>, Sam Ruby
<rubys@intertwingly.net>, public-html@w3.org

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
> ing aria-describedby for long text descriptions is a dead issue from the
> PF's perspective.

If this is the PFWG's position, why isn't it reflected in the ARIA
documents maintained by PFWG, for example:


> Attempts so to do overload describedby. That's unacceptable.
> Even should it prove there's some way by which browsers might pass
> marked up content to the a11y APIs so that these APIs will not flatten
> that content to straight text

You mean like the ways the ARIA implementation guide suggests?


> describedby still does not meet the
> requirements of a long text mechanism.

> Specifically, describedby is
> intended for content that is to be read automatically as it is
> encountered.

That seems like critical information about aria-describedby. If that's
the PF's position, why doesn't the formal definition of
aria-describedby say that:


See also the other links I already collected, which show that the spec
text around aria-describedby is very different from what you're


Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG

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