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Re: STILL Open--48-Hour Consensus Call: Request to reconsider Alt Techniques Location

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:28:49 -0500
To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20120222212849.GC5179@sonata.rednote.net>
Hi, Sam:

Sam Ruby writes:
> On 02/21/2012 02:19 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> >Colleagues:
> >
> >Inasmuch as this 48 hour consensus was called on a Friday afternoon in
> >front of a 3-day U.S. holliday weekend, the call is still open. Please
> >feel free to respond until end of business Boston Time on Wednesday, 22
> >February.
> 
The extension relates to whether Steve's CP gets TF consensus backing.
Is there some other issue here?

> Despite this extension, the chairs have decided to proceed with
> publishing their evaluation of the Change Proposal as it exists
> today:
> 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0293.html
> 
1.) I don't see the very first item the CP mentions being considered. Was
it? namely, relevance to many technologies, not simply HTML? Did you
have a position on that?

2.)	The CP asserts a systemic problem for which the cited bugs are
illustrative. I see your response on the individual bugs, but not on the
global question. In fact the assertion, as I understand it, is that
escalating these individually is counter-productive and unlikely to
achieve the needed remedy, a systematic elimination of specific
illustrative guidance in the HTML specs. We assert the specs should
define lexical markup, not authoring guidance, as the evidence--since
calendar year 2007--suggests this guidance is often unsatisfactory, and
historical efforts to correct it have been frustrated. Were we then to
escalate each individual issue, it's highly likely we would achieve
reasonable results on some, but there's no basis for an expectation that
all would be properly addressed. Hence, no escalation on on individual
issues because of the historical pattern, and rather the request to
defer to the appropriate guidance document--which exists because of the
history, as the earlier CP pointed out.


3.)	The April decision suggested a new WCAG might be grounds for
reconsideration. The CP points to how that was a misunderstanding of
WCAG, and how current work actually satisfies the suggestion the Chairs
reached last April, howbeit from incorrect reasoning. Is there a
response for this here somewhere that I'm missing.

This is not meant to be an exhaustive analysis, but I think these are
three major misunderstandings between the CP and the analysis cited.

Janina


> - Sam Ruby

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