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Re: [aapi] HTML to API mapping agenda for Feb 14

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:46:38 -0500
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>, "Char James-Tanny (charjt@helpstuff.com)" <charjt@helpstuff.com>, Larry Weiss <lweiss@microsoft.com>, John S Lee <jslee@rim.com>, "david.bolter@gmail.com" <david.bolter@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120211164638.GH4976@sonata.rednote.net>
Hi, Steve:
Steven Faulkner writes:
> what is the issue?
> 

It's Bug 15213 currently marked 'Rejected." It has not been escalated to
an Issue--at least not as of yet.

Quoting from:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15213


Description John Foliot 2011-12-15 15:55:06 UTC

In the section "Drag-and-drop processing model"
([48]http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/dnd.html#drag-and-drop-processing-model)
it states: "Note: img elements and a elements with an href attribute
have their draggable attribute set to true by default."

This list should also include any element who's role has been set (via
ARIA) to either role="link" or role="img" as they are functional
equivalents in the Accessibility API

Comment 1 Anne 2011-12-15 18:34:48 UTC

I thought the intention of ARIA was pure mapping to the accessibility
API. I.e.  we would not attach behavior to it.

Comment 2 Everett Zufelt 2011-12-15 18:57:06 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)

I can't comment on the intention of ARIA in general, or of its role in
the spec.

I can say that anchors and images are given the @draggable attribute by
default. The ARIA link and img roles are used by developers to represent
links (anchors) and images, where native markup is not sufficient.  I
expect that role="link" and role="img" map to <a> and <img>
respectively, in the a11y API mapping. Therefore, I think that we should
provide, by default, the @draggable attribute for these roles, in the
same way that @draggable is applied by default to <a> and <img>.

Comment 3 Anne 2011-12-16 09:46:54 UTC

At that point you violate the design of ARIA.

Comment 4 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2012-01-28 22:05:53 UTC
		 .... ....
		 Status: Rejected
		 Change Description: no spec change
		 Rationale: see [55]comment 3

Janina

> On 10 February 2012 23:51, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> >  I’ve had a request to add this tracker issue to our agenda****
> >
> >
> > http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
> > ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* Cynthia Shelly [mailto:cyns@microsoft.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:14 AM
> > *To:* public-html-a11y@w3.org; wai-xtech@w3.org; Char James-Tanny (
> > charjt@helpstuff.com); Larry Weiss; John S Lee; david.bolter@gmail.com
> > *Subject:* [aapi] HTML to API mapping agenda for Feb 14****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Agenda****
> >
> > Formulate questions to ask implementers****
> >
> > Review layout updates from Jason****
> >
> > Action Item review****
> >
> > New business****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Here are the conference details****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Tuesdays 20:00-21:00 UTC ****
> >
> > 12:00pm-1:00pm Pacific Standard Time ****
> >
> > 3:00pm-4:00pm Boston local, fixed to Boston time****
> >
> > 8:00pm-9:00pm UK****
> >
> > 9:00am-10:00am Wednesday, NZDT (Auckland)****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> with regards
> 
> Steve Faulkner
> Technical Director - TPG
> 
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