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Re: CfC: Close ISSUE-206: meta-generator by Amicable Resolution

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:08:32 +0100
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To: "Michael[tm] Smith" <mike@w3.org>
Cc: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "Edward O'Connor" <eoconnor@apple.com>, "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
hi mike,

>Anyway, if we can just agree for now that it would be better to have a
>more-expressive-and-less-easy-to-understand name, let's do that.

yes


regards
steve

On 2 August 2012 10:05, Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> wrote:
> Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, 2012-08-02 08:39 +0100:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I will support this concept/proposal, but think it needs some tweaking
>>
>> I think the use of an attribute with a more expressive and less easy
>> to misunderstand name is useful. aka something along the lines of that
>> proposed by hixie.
>> So suggest that the attribute name be changed.
>
> Yeah, I agree as well that we need a more expressive and less easy to
> misunderstand name -- for a number of reasons, including the core reasons
> that Hixie specifically enumerated:
>
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Aug/0004.html
>
>   - it's long, so people aren't going to want to type it out
>   - it's long, so it will stick out in copy-and-paste scenarios
>   - it's eminently searchable (long unique term) and so will likely lead to
>     good documentation if it's adopted
>
>> a suggestion "important-image-content-published-with-no-text-alternative"
>
> I could live with that. I could also live with what Hixie proposed,
> "generator-unable-to-provide-required-alt". But note that Hixie also
> articulated some reasons for the specific parts of that name:
>
>   - the "generator" part implies that it's for use by generators, and may
>     discourage authors from using it
>   - the "unable" and "required" parts make it obvious that using this
>     attribute is an act of last resort
>
> So think "generator-unable-to-provide-required-alt" is a bit more
> expressive in some specific ways that are valuable.
>
> Anyway, if we can just agree for now that it would be better to have a
> more-expressive-and-less-easy-to-understand name, let's do that.
>
>   --Mike
>
> --
> Michael[tm] Smith http://people.w3.org/mike



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