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Test Subteam Minutes for Tuesday 11 October

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:54:57 -0400
To: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20111011205456.GY13164@sonata.rednote.net>
Minutes from the HTML-A11Y Task Force Text Subteam teleconference on
Tuesday 11 October are provided below in text and in html at:

http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-text-minutes.html

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11 Oct 2011

   See also: IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          Judy, Janina, John_Foliot

   Regrets
   Chair
          SV_MEETING_CHAIR

   Scribe
          Judy, Janina

Contents

     * Topics
         1. longdesc: progress on JS-response to Matt's updated proposal?
         2. meta name=generator: updates?
            <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposal/meta_name%3Dgenerator_does_not_make_missing_alt_conforming>
         3. table summary: expanded use cases? <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ReinstateTableSummary>
         4. generated content: progress on discussions? <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13668>
         5. bug 8645, alt text for images: confirm closed? <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8645>
         6. other business?
         7. meeting time: Tuesday 4pm US Eastern OR is 1pm US Eastern better for UK & CET?
     * Summary of Action Items
     __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

   <Judy> (note upcoming end of daylight savings time, different in different countries).

longdesc: progress on JS-response to Matt's updated proposal?

   <Judy> scribe: Judy

   js: Not yet. Haven't yet spoken with John.

   jf: When are issues going to be surveyed by the WG?

   jb: As Paul confirmed on the TF call, they will await our indication that we're ready to move forward on that.

   jf: Notes that Maciej suggest folding my comments into Laura's cp
   ... I responded that might not be necessary.
   ... Laura responded today that she would prefer not to.

   jb: I will confirm with Laura that we don't need to do that.

   <scribe> scribe: Janina

meta name=generator: updates?
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposal/meta_name%3Dgenerator_does_not_make_missing_alt_conforming>

   jb: Haven't seen any update from Steve or Janina

   Janina Correct. Steve and I need to talk on this.

   jb: Steve did acknowledge the feedback

   janina: Will ping him

   It is critical to note that supporting the accessibility of graphical images

   always requires appropriate alternative content markup. In some cases, of

   course, this means that images are marked "presentational," as with current

   ARIA based markup, or with an alt null string, alt="", as from HTML 4. In no

   instance can images without appropriate alternative markup be considered

   accessible.

   jb: Suggests suggesting the above to Steve.

table summary: expanded use cases? <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ReinstateTableSummary>

   janina: Lyn has provided use cases.
   ... I will go to this, but need to finish the response to Matt.

   jf: Re improving table summary are we addressing discoverability and user interaction?

   janina: We need to check that. Should do it as well as our longdesc cp

   jf: Since html5 doesn't proscribe user agent behavior, we need to simply provide appropriate guidance elsewhere,
   perhaps from UAWG, PF.

   janina: I will try and follow up with Josh directly.

   jb: And Lyn?

   janina: Will respond

   jb: Perhaps a teleconference with you Lynn and Josh?

   janina: Yes

generated content: progress on discussions? <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13668>

   jf: No time for it yet ...
   ... Still confusion around this,
   ... We had a draft this week from Opera that used css for printing only
   ... Wondering if there's confusion among implementers of what css should be used for?

   [discussion on whether css generated should be voiced, or under what circumstances]

   janina: Noting that PF is requesting a meet with CSS at TPAC. Could address this then.

bug 8645, alt text for images: confirm closed? <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8645>

   janina: We closed this

other business?

meeting time: Tuesday 4pm US Eastern OR is 1pm US Eastern better for UK & CET?

   janina: I need to bring back our Title reconsideration CP for approval on TF Thursday

Summary of Action Items

   [End of minutes]
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Scribes: Judy, Janina
Present: Judy Janina John_Foliot

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Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
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Chair, Open Accessibility	janina@a11y.org	
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