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Re: ISSUE-122 shalott-example: Call for revisions

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:38:05 +0000
Message-ID: <AANLkTikO5bvaC9BS+hVsTfBfr3k3nqX0SQnM0Lt8M9y0@mail.gmail.com>
To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "Michael Cooper (cooper@w3.org)" <cooper@w3.org>, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>
Cc: "Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net)" <janina@rednote.net>
Hi Janina,

you wrote:
>the status of this HTML 5 document has not been decided

 It would be good if  decisions were made about the status of the document
in consultation with people such as myself who are actively involved.


regards
Stevef

On 17 February 2011 03:56, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (
janina@rednote.net) <janina@rednote.net> wrote:

> Dear All:
>
> I wanted to send this brief update and comment on one particular point
> regarding issues raised in these recent messages concerning Issue-122
> ...
>
> Sam Ruby writes:
> > On 02/11/2011 08:23 AM, Laura Carlson wrote:
> > >The HTML Working Group should not be setting normative advice for alt
> > >values. That is WCAG's domain, especially when that advise is in
> > >opposition to WCAG's advice. Providing the mechanism(s) for a text
> > >alternative is an inalienable HTML WG concern. Whereas providing
> > >guidance on values for alternative text is an inalienable WAI concern.
> >
> > That has yet to be determined.  Clearly the membership of both
> > groups overlap, and as near as I can tell, some members of WAI have
> > proposed specific additions to the HTML draft.  Note: I in no way
> > presume that is an indication that such individuals would be opposed
> > to your change proposal, I am simply pointing out that what you are
> > stating as fact has yet to be decided.
> >
> The WAI CG has just begun consideration of this issue in its meeting
> today focussing specifically on Steve Faulkner's Alt Techniques
> document:
>
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/
>
> So, while it is indeed the case that the status of this HTML 5 document
> has not been decided, it is appropriate to note that several people in
> the WAI CG took action items to consider this particular document with
> reference to similar guidance published by WAI. We will, before too many
> more weeks pass by, come back with suggestions on how we think this, and
> perhaps similar guidance elsewhere in HTML 5 documents, might best be
> integrated with WAI reference resources.
>
> Please consider this email a FYI that this topic is just now beginning to
> be
> actively considered in WAI.
>
> I would hasten to add that we have not forgotten that the 2009 I CG
> Consensus Recommendations on Text alternatives"
>
> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/Text-Alternatives-in-HTML5.html
>
> took a position on this issue. However, we're also mindful that there
> are historical reasons that explain how Steve's document came to
> be a HTML 5 document. What to do going forward to meet everyone's
> legitimate interests here is something I'm sure we'll be able to
> decide. I just wanted everyone to know that it's now an active issue for
> WAI.
>
> Janina
>
> > th >Best Regards,
> > >Laura
> >
> > - Sam Ruby
> >
> > >[1]
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/TextAlternativesIssue122
> > >[2] That question is:  "Where/who will define requirements on the
> > >possible values of text alternative examples?".
> > >
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElementSurveyConformaceChoices#3._Text_Alternative_Examples_Question:_.22Where.2Fwho_will_define_requirements_on_the_possible_values_of_text_alternatives_examples.3F.22
> > >
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
>                sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>
> Chair, Open Accessibility       janina@a11y.org
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>
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> Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>
>


-- 
with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG

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