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Re: Status on reopening longdesc Issue 30 (was Re: longdesc use cases)

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:21:19 -0600
Message-ID: <AANLkTim25YiiZiwZGGYJMwFaoM96HpHZ-49wOND4wZoL@mail.gmail.com>
To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Cc: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Janina,

> I'm a bit confused. Your doc asks the WG to discuss, but your email came
> to the TF.

I would like task force input before it is submitted to the Working Group.

> Is it your intent that the TF work to perfect this document?
> If so, I would happily cede my action item on starting a draft and work
> with you on improving your proposal.

That would be great.

> I think you've made a great start, but I believe several things need to
> be addressed before submitting this proposal to the WG Chairs. Most
> critically, I don't find your presentation of use cases at all clear,
> and that was the core of the rejection at:
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/att-0112/issue-30-decision.html
>
> For instance, you name a "Primary Use Case," but there's no clearly
> named "Secondary Use Case" that I see on a quick read through.

Primary Use Case Overview is informally written at:
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc#Primary_Use_Case_Overview

Other informal Use Cases are at:
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc#Other_Use_Cases

But the proper and formal, specific use cases are at:
http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/research/ld.html#uc
All of these are from an author's perspective. It would be good to
have some formal use cases from blind users perspectives.
The use case key for the formal use cases is at:
http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/research/usecasekey.html

How do you suggest the use cases be clarified?

> I also don't see a clear rebuttal to the Chairs assertion that figure
> and aria-describedby are available options, though there's allusion to
> the latter.

I added a section on aria-describedby at:
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc#aria-describedby_is_not_a_Functional_Replacement_for_longdesc

Does that help?

If you write a section for figure I will insert it into the Wiki page.

Let me know what else can be improved.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Laura.

-- 
Laura L. Carlson
Received on Tuesday, 1 February 2011 01:21:51 GMT

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