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Re: Proposal: Add a modal element to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog)

From: E.J. Zufelt <everett@zufelt.ca>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:01:15 -0400
Cc: public-html-a11y@w3.org
Message-Id: <798AC727-7017-4377-B512-B821194791DE@zufelt.ca>
To: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>

Bug 10645  Add a modal element, or attribute, to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog)

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10645


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On 2010-09-17, at 9:02 AM, Steven Faulkner wrote:

> Everett wrote:
>  
> > IMO the accessibility benefits alone (not considering the aggregate benefits to the broader community) are vastly greater with modal than with hidden.
> 
> totally agree, so it is worthwhile pushing for modal.
>  
> regards
> steveF
>  
>  
> On 17 September 2010 13:43, E.J. Zufelt <everett@zufelt.ca> wrote:
> On 2010-09-17, at 8:35 AM, Steven Faulkner wrote:
> 
> > Hi Everett,
> >
> > I heartily support this, as its a major and common issue for keyboard and assistive technology users.
> >
> >
> >
> > you wrote:
> >
> > "Add a modal element to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog)"
> >
> > any reason why it could not be a modal attribute?
> 
> No reason at all.
> 
> > Add a modal element, or attribute,  to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog)
> 
> 
> >
> > bruce wrote: quoting Ian Hickson,
> >
> > "Id add it to HTML 5, but there are so many new features already that we need to wait for the browsers to catch up."
> >
> > This is not a decision for the editor to make, but if we are concerned about the load on browser vemdors, we could drop the hidden attribute from HTML5, which is a new feature that has been stated by the editor being a major boon to accessibility, but adds little that is not already handled by the use of CSS display and visibility properties.
> 
> 
> >  I  would rather see modal than hidden in the spec, but ideally both.  However, I can understand how the cost of implementation may be  lower with hidden than with modal.
> 
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> > IMO the accessibility benefits alone (not considering the aggregate benefits to the broader community) are vastly greater with modal than with hidden.
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> -- 
> with regards
> 
> Steve Faulkner
> Technical Director - TPG Europe
> Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium
>  
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