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RE: FW: [Bug 10525] New: Please try to improve Bugzilla's accessibility/usability problems before Last Call

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 21:37:19 +0200
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Cc: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Michael Smith <mike@w3.org>, Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20100902213719796060.01d6a431@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Part of the accessibility/usability issue is that Bugzilla currently 
destroyes non-ISO-8859-1 characters. 

This is related to the fact that the Bugzilla installation currently 
uses ISO-8859-1 as its character encoding. Since we are issuing a spec 
which encourages everyone to use UTF-8 and which also warns against 
problems related to forms when UTF-8 isn't used, perhaps that could be 
fixed as part of Laura's request/bug? 

Ways to meet this: EITHER set bugzilla up to serve pages as UTF-8. 
AND/OR make sure that form input is treated as UTF-8.  If none of that 
is possible, the please do at least warn users against typing in 
non-ISO-8859-1 character in input.

Leif H Silli

Paul Cotton, Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:18:49 +0000:
> I have raised this matter with the W3C Systems team.  See my request 
> (member-only):
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-tools/2010JulSep/0001.html
> 
> /paulc
> 
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laura Carlson [mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 3:10 PM
> To: Janina Sajka
> Cc: Paul Cotton; Michael Smith; Michael Cooper; Laura Carlson; HTML 
> Accessibility Task Force
> Subject: Re: FW: [Bug 10525] New: Please try to improve Bugzilla's 
> accessibility/usability problems before Last Call
> 
> Hi Janina,
> 
>> Meanwhile, any specifics that people can share via email
>> would, I'm sure, be much appreciated.
> 
> Gregory's Bugzilla assessment is at:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0146.html
> 
> Best Regards,
> Laura
> 
> On 9/1/10, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
>> Hi, Paul:
>> 
>> Paul Cotton writes:
>>> I seem to remember that the accessibility of Bugzilla was discussed at a
>>> previous A11Y TF meeting.
>>> 
>> I don't recall a conversation on HTML-A11Y. I do recall a conversation
>> in HCG.
>> 
>> However, this is certainly a worthy topic for HTML-A11Y, and I am happy
>> to add it to our Thursday agenda.
>> 
>> Meanwhile, any specifics that people can share via email would, I'm
>> sure, be much appreciated.
>> 
>> As I recall the HCG conversation ...
>> 
>> *	We needed to confirm whether W3C was using latest Bugzilla as
>> *	this question invariably comes up when enhancements are proposed
>> *	upstream.
>> 
>> *	We wanted to see how we might enhance W3C bugzilla a11y via any
>> *	configuration changes in the W3C deployment.
>> 
>> *	We might then want to propose changes upstream to default
>> *	Bugzilla.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>>> Can someone help me remember that discussion and/or point me to the
>>> minutes of that discussion?
>>> 
>>> Are there any outstanding explicit or implicit action items on this topic?
>>> 
>>> /paulc
>>> 
>>> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>>> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>>> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bugzilla@jessica.w3.org [mailto:bugzilla@jessica.w3.org]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:06 AM
>>> To: Paul Cotton
>>> Subject: [Bug 10525] New: Please try to improve Bugzilla's
>>> accessibility/usability problems before Last Call
>>> 
>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10525
>>> 
>>>            Summary: Please try to improve Bugzilla's
>>>                     accessibility/usability problems before Last Call
>>>            Product: HTML WG
>>>            Version: unspecified
>>>           Platform: PC
>>>                URL: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-polic
>>>                     y.html
>>>         OS/Version: All
>>>             Status: NEW
>>>           Keywords: a11y
>>>           Severity: normal
>>>           Priority: P2
>>>          Component: working group Decision Policy
>>>         AssignedTo: dave.null@w3.org
>>>         ReportedBy: laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com
>>>          QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
>>>                 CC: mjs@apple.com, Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com,
>>>                     rubys@intertwingly.net, mike@w3.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bugzilla is a major component in the HTML Decision Process, which states
>>> "Issues should be filed as bugs in W3C Bugzilla to be formally
>>> considered."
>>> 
>>> Accessibility/usability problems have been identified.
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0146.html
>>> 
>>> I know Paul said that he would watch the comment list and assist people if
>>> they
>>> have trouble, which is helpful. But it would be great if people could file
>>> bugs
>>> directly without encountering major accessibility/usability problems.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> References:
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0152.html
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0164.html
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0421.html
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0424.html
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0428.html
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0435.html
>>> 
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>> --
>> 
>> Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
>> 		sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>> 
>> Chair, Open Accessibility	janina@a11y.org	
>> Linux Foundation		http://a11y.org
>> 
>> Chair, Protocols & Formats
>> Web Accessibility Initiative	http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
>> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Laura L. Carlson
> 
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