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[Bug 10916] Add a new <control> element to convey the common semantics of a script enabled UI control

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:26:12 +0000
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10916

Ian 'Hixie' Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
                 CC|                            |ian@hixie.ch
         Resolution|                            |WONTFIX

--- Comment #8 from Ian 'Hixie' Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> 2010-10-12 07:26:12 UTC ---
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Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale:

It seems that there are two basic approaches for this already specified, which
should already be usable for the given use case of a development environment
being careful not to break pages during editing:

 * ARIA: Tools should never fiddle with elements that specify ARIA roles and
states, _especially_ control-related roles.

 * XBL: The long-term solution for this is for pages to use regular HTML form
control elements like <input>, using whatever the closest element is to what
they are trying to do, and then to use XBL to replace the behaviour and
rendering of the control with the custom look and feel desired (with ARIA in
the shadow tree, if ATs expose the shadow tree rather than just exposing the
original control).

In addition, I would add that any development tool that removes or indeed
fiddles in any way with elements that have data-* attributes specified or event
handler attribute specified is really asking for trouble. This is naturally a
per-vendor decision, and thus out of the scope of the spec, but I really would
be disappointed in editing tools that change _any_ of the markup except what
the user actually said to change. There's really no reason an editor can't
round-trip all the data in the page. After all, there's no way to know what's
truly important, especially if the page is one that includes hand-authored
components, scripts, or components inserted by other tools.

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