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Re: [Bug 5758] insufficient accessibility fallback for <audio> or <video>

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:03:12 -0800
Cc: "bugzilla@wiggum.w3.org" <bugzilla@wiggum.w3.org>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-Id: <5465078B-2AD9-4C3E-B5F1-6024ACD8DAF0@apple.com>
To: Gez Lemon <g.lemon@webprofession.com>
OK, Gez

you are right, that was a frustrated and caustic message;  You are also right; people have concerns about this area.  In fact, we had a workshop on it before TPAC.  The concerns are shared.

Bugs are a good tool for some purposes;  however, not everything is a nail.  Bugs are very good for tracking single-issue questions where the resolution is either clear, or the editor can work it out.  Bugs are a poor way to
a) have a conversation about a problem area;
b) get a grip on understanding a problem with multiple facets, for which the resolution may well involve a number of discrete changes.

I think that accessibility of multimedia needs a holistic look and a conversation, and so I find filing bugs on it not helpful, and asking when "Later" is could be answered "when there are consensus recommendations as to what to do about it".


On Jan 12, 2010, at 10:57 , Gez Lemon wrote:

> Oh wow, we could send each other unconstructive caustic messages to
> discourage people filing bugs they have genuine concerns about.
> 
> Oh wait, we already have someone doing that.
> 
> 
> 
> 2010/1/12 David Singer <singer@apple.com>:
>> Oh wow, we could form a task force to discuss this question and really look
>> into it properly. People could give ideas, mutually educate each other, and
>> we could understand the big picture and then ask for spec changes based on
>> discussion!
>> 
>> Oh wait, don't we already have that tf?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 5:28, bugzilla@wiggum.w3.org wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5758
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- Comment #10 from Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
>>>  2010-01-12 13:28:10 ---
>>> Could "Resolution: LATER" be defined for this bug?
>>> 
>>> Is there a ballpark date? Does it mean before HTML5 last call? Or does it
>>> mean
>>> HTML6?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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David Singer
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