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Re: [Bug 8671] Requiring the label attribute

From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:38:18 +0000
To: public-html-a11y@w3.org, gez.lemon@gmail.com
Message-Id: <20100107172849.M5140@hicom.net>
aloha!

does bug 8671 cover the not-yet-submitted bug report contained at:

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/a11y/command_element/icon

and reproduced in full following my signature...

should the info on that wiki page be ported to bug 8671 or should
a new bug be opened, as the thrust of my bug report is that @label
MUST be used when @icon is used, not just for accessibility purposes,
but general usability and internationalization, as an icon only has
meaning through use and custom, and not everyone who perceives the
icon will know what it is intended to represent...  

Bugs/a11y/command element/icon


   Bug Details:
     * Section: 4.11.2 The command element
     * Revision version of draft reviewed: 1.3518

   <q
   cite="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-elements.html#attr-comm
   and-label">The label attribute gives the name of the command, as shown
   to the user.</q>

   <q
   cite="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-elements.html#command-f
   acet-accesskey">The title attribute gives a hint describing the
   command, which might be shown to the user to help him.</q>

   Comments: This differentiation between label and title is a familiar
   one: the label is a noun, which describes the labeled item, while
   title serves as a "verb", by providing assistance or instructions to
   the user on demand.

   <q
   cite="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-elements.html#command-f
   acet-accesskey">The icon attribute gives a picture that represents the
   command. If the attribute is specified, the attribute's value must
   contain a valid URL. To obtain the absolute URL of the icon, the
   attribute's value must be resolved relative to the element.</q>

   Comments: There is currently no stipulation that use of an icon
   necessitates valid label and title values, so as to provide for an
   alternative to the rendering of the graphic. Since the icon attribute
   is explicitly <q
   cite="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-elements.html#command-f
   acet-accesskey">a picture that represents the command</q>, use of icon
   must be valid only when label and title are also present.

   Synopsis: Use of icon requires valid label (and title, or is that an
   best practice for authors - sometimes, the label does "say it all").
   There are NO circumstances where the icon attribute can be used
   without an accompanying label. Note that the presence of a label helps
   users who can perceive the icon, but to whom the imagery does not make
   sense or is not readily apparent to the user; therefore, label becomes
   an especially important means of disambiguating the meaning of the
   icon.
     _________________________________________________________________

   Retrieved from
   "http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/a11y/command_element/icon"

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