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[Bug 11540] The willful violation clause is most unwise. A standard should not violate another standard for any reason. This wouls lead to 2 things : 1) Content correctly encoded content would never be displayed correctly. 2) All future standards would need to includ

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--- Comment #7 from Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com> 2010-12-13 12:52:11 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #6) 
> * CAPTCHA Bug 9216 on HTML5 [1] and CAPTCHA Bug 9169 on Techniques for
> providing useful text alternatives [2].
> * Webcam Bug 9215 on HTML5 [3] and Webcam Bug 9174 on Techniques for
> providing useful text alternatives [4].
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216
> [2] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9169
> [3] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215
> [4] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9174
> 
> Both the HTML5 Spec and the Techniques for providing useful text
> alternatives are in direct conflict. Techniques for providing useful text
> alternatives provides normative advice.

The Techniques document is not in scope for this bug (see the Component field).

The HTML5 Spec does not designate the conformance criteria in the sections
discussed in those tickets as willful violations of WCAG2, and I do not accept
that the tickets discuss violations of WCAG2. The tickets ultimately boil down
to questions about what attributes should contain what sort of text
alternatives. WCAG2 requires text alternatives, but being a
technology-independent standard it does not provide conformance criteria
mandating what "alt" and "title" should mean or how they should be used.

> > http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#table-encoding-overrides
> Other bugs have previous been expanded in scope, for instance HTML ISSUE 122.

That people have expanded the scope of previous bugs is not a good reason to
expand the scope of yet more bugs.

"One bug per report" is a basic principle of bug reporting:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/bug_writing_guidelines

Trying to argue about "alt" and charsets in the same bug is just confusing, but
if you want to open *another* bug expressly concerned with the general
principle of not violating other standards, feel free.

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