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Re: a11y TF CfC on resolution to support "Media Text Associations" change proposal for HTML issue 9

From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:08:56 +0100
To: Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>, "Silvia Pfeiffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, "Sean Hayes" <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
Cc: "Eric Carlson" <eric.carlson@apple.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20100406100810.M96514@hicom.net>
aloha, philip!

yes, by all means, ultimate position of captions and controls 
SHOULD be subject to individual user preferences, gregory.
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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, "Silvia Pfeiffer" 
<silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, "Sean Hayes" <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
Cc: "Eric Carlson" <eric.carlson@apple.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" 
<public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Sent: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:46:55 +0800
Subject: Re: a11y TF CfC on resolution to support "Media Text 
Associations"  change proposal for HTML issue 9

> Personally I would prefer the captions being obscured by the 
> controls to  the captions sliding up and down with the controls, 
> but think it's  something that could be settable by a user pref. 
> This is something  different browsers might come up with 
> different solutions for, so we'll  see what users like best.
> 
> Philip
> 
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:28:42 +0800, Sean Hayes 
> <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>  wrote:
> 
> > I agree with both Silvia and Gregory. Both the controls and captions  
> > must remain separate and independently usable whilst the video is  
> > playing.
> >
> > I think it's important to note that Silvia and I were talking about  
> > "above" in the x/y plane, and not the z plane. Well at least I was, 
and  
> > I think Silvia was too.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gregory J. Rosmaita [mailto:oedipus@hicom.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:52 AM
> > To: Silvia Pfeiffer; Philip Jägenstedt
> > Cc: Eric Carlson; Sean Hayes; public-html-a11y@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: a11y TF CfC on resolution to support "Media Text  
> > Associations" change proposal for HTML issue 9
> >
> > aloha, silvia!
> >
> > since all too often, embedded controls and overlapping controls make  
> > multimedia impossible to use with assistive technology, i simply 
wanted  
> > to give a strong plus one to your observation that
> >
> > QUOTE
> >> moving the captions up above the controls is actually absolutely
> >> necessary.
> > UNQUOTE
> >
> > this MUST be made painfully clear in any proposal -- that whatever  
> > mechanism is adapted, it MUST present player controls and captions 
in  
> > discrete sections of the display which MUST not overlap, even should 
the  
> > user decide that she wants captions at the top of the video pane or 
on  
> > the bottom of the video pane, the controls must always be visible 
and  
> > accessible to the user
> >
> > gregory.
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > ABSURDITY, n.  A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with
> > one's own opinion.      -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devils' Dictionary
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus@hicom.net AND unagi69@concentric.net
> >          Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html
> > UBATS: United Blind Advocates for Talking Signs: http://ubats.org
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> Philip Jägenstedt
> Core Developer
> Opera Software
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