RE: BIONT-DSE-DCM Link

Either day works for me... also please include the public-hcls-dse@w3.org  mailing list for future messages .

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Kashyap, Vipul [mailto:VKASHYAP1@PARTNERS.ORG]
Sent: Mon 5/14/2007 12:05 PM
To: Forsberg, Kerstin L; Andersson, Bo H; Eric Neumann; Rachel L Richesson
Cc: Kashyap, Vipul
Subject: RE: BIONT-DSE-DCM Link
 
Would like to propose that we schedule a conference call to discuss next steps

at the BIONT or DSE Conference Call timings.

 

Will the following work for you?

 

Tuesday, May 22nd at 11:00am Eastern

Friday, May 25th at 11:00am Eastern

 

Thanks,

 

---Vipul

 

ps: Please check with others who might be interested in this and I am not aware
of, e.g., Steve Dobson, don't have his e-mail address.

 

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Senior Medical Informatician

Clinical Informatics R&D, Partners HealthCare System

Phone: (781)416-9254

Cell: (617)943-7120

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From: Forsberg, Kerstin L [mailto:Kerstin.L.Forsberg@astrazeneca.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:11 PM
To: Kashyap, Vipul
Cc: Andersson, Bo H; Eric Neumann
Subject: RE: BIONT-DSE-DCM Link

 

Hi again Vipul,

during the lunch the last day at the conference we have updated the page
according to our good discussions.

 

Let's continue ...

 

Cheers

Bosse and Kerstin

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Forsberg, Kerstin L 
	Sent: 10 maj 2007 23:16
	To: 'Kashyap, Vipul'; Andersson, Bo H
	Subject: RE: BIONT-DSE-DCM Link

	Thanks Vipul,

	I did a lot of research around NCI's CDE/caDSR and the ISO1179 model
during a couple of years ago, but have not come across this paper before. Have
just very quickly browsed through it. Seems to be reporting problems both on the
concepts definitions derived from NCI Thesaurus (NCIt) and on the structure,
such as the lack of a mechanism to specify relationships between CDE:s. 

	 

	I am part of the CDISC / RCRIM Controlled Terminology (CT) team that use
CDE/caDSR in a bit strange way to represent their CT:s and I have also raised
concerns around the concepts definitions they apply from NCIt for CDISC CT:s
that mix up the concept for the observation as such and the medical phenomenon
observered. It will be interesting to read the paper and see if they report
similar problems.

	 

	Also, the lack of good support for specifying relationships between
CDE:s in the ISO11179 model and the lack of good support for variants /
configurations in the implementations of the model such as NCI's, were
identified in our early work. And lead us to extend the model with a
superstructure to support composed/decomposed Observation Structures fod
different clinical relevant Observation Types and their Concepts. We have also
been applying the general software pattern of facades to support variants /
configuration management. 

	 

	These were some of the topics I kind of alluded to in our discussion the
after evening. 

	 

	Bosse and I will talk more during our days here and get back to you.

	 

	Cheers

	Kerstin

		-----Original Message-----
		From: Kashyap, Vipul [mailto:VKASHYAP1@PARTNERS.ORG]
		Sent: 10 maj 2007 20:13
		To: Forsberg, Kerstin L; Andersson, Bo H
		Subject: RE: BIONT-DSE-DCM Link

		Kerstin,

		 

		Thanks for adding these links to the wiki. I have added a paper
that evaluates NCI common data elements.

		 

		Cheers,

		 

		----Vipul

		 

		=======================================

		Vipul Kashyap, Ph.D.

		Senior Medical Informatician

		Clinical Informatics R&D, Partners HealthCare System

		Phone: (781)416-9254

		Cell: (617)943-7120

		http://www.partners.org/cird/AboutUs.asp?cBox=Staff&stAb=vik

		 

		To keep up you need the right answers; to get ahead you need the
right questions

		---John Browning and Spencer Reiss, Wired 6.04.95

		
________________________________


		From: Forsberg, Kerstin L
[mailto:Kerstin.L.Forsberg@astrazeneca.com] 
		Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:30 AM
		To: Kashyap, Vipul; Andersson, Bo H
		Subject: RE: BIONT-DSE-DCM Link

		 

		Hi and thanks Viput for a good discussion today,

		I started to update the page slighly but the connection here is
so slow so I will do it later then I have faster connection.

		 

		Anyhow, here are some of the stuff I mentioned today and I
wanted to add there:

		 

		More about the observation-fokused model behind SDTM's 20+
different data exchaange structures implemented for datasets:

	
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Drug_Safety_and_Efficacy?action=AttachFile&do=get
&target=CDISC+SDTM+and+related+init.ppt

	
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Drug_Safety_and_Efficacy?action=AttachFile&do=get
&target=CDISC+SDTM+overview.doc

	
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Drug_Safety_and_Efficacy?action=AttachFile&do=get
&target=CDISCs+SDTM+basics.ppt

		 

		The EDC / EHR intative I didn't remember the name of and I am
not well updated on is about an "integration profile" called Retrieve Form for
Data-capture (RFD)

	
http://www.cdisc.org/news/10-04-2007_PR29_HIMSS_Interoperability_Showcase.pdf

		http://www.bioitworld.com/newsitems/2006/dec/12-19-06-cdisc-demo


		 

		Regards

		Kerstin

		 

			-----Original Message-----
			From: Kashyap, Vipul [mailto:VKASHYAP1@PARTNERS.ORG]
			Sent: 9 maj 2007 02:55
			To: Andersson, Bo H; Forsberg, Kerstin L
			Subject: BIONT-DSE-DCM Link

	
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/BIONTDSEDCM 

			 

			=======================================

			Vipul Kashyap, Ph.D.

			Senior Medical Informatician

			Clinical Informatics R&D, Partners HealthCare System

			Phone: (781)416-9254

			Cell: (617)943-7120

	
http://www.partners.org/cird/AboutUs.asp?cBox=Staff&stAb=vik

			 

			To keep up you need the right answers; to get ahead you
need the right questions

			---John Browning and Spencer Reiss, Wired 6.04.95

			 

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