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RE: GRDDL WG may close any time now

From: Ogbuji, Chimezie <OGBUJIC@ccf.org>
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:34:47 -0400
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To: "Harry Halpin" <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>, "Dan Connolly" <connolly@w3.org>
cc: public-grddl-wg <public-grddl-wg@w3.org>, swick <swick@w3.org>, "Ian B. Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>
+1 for option 2):

2) Wait for a new Semantic Web Deployment Group at some point that updates 
RDFa, GRDDL, etc. to work with HTML5 WG.

Me personally, if GRDDL works for XHTML 1.x but is broken for HTML 5: it is not a catastrophe.  The differences (specific to this incompatibility) seem more motivated by dogma than legitimate technological justification.  My $0.02

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-----Original Message-----
From: public-grddl-wg-request@w3.org on behalf of Harry Halpin
Sent: Sat 9/6/2008 12:52 PM
To: Dan Connolly
Cc: public-grddl-wg; swick; Ian B. Jacobs
Subject: Re: GRDDL WG may close any time now

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Dan Connolly wrote:

> This GRDDL WG finished its job a while ago, but to
> stay on the safe side of some open patent policy issues*, W3C
> didn't formally close this WG.
> It has since become more clear that the issue doesn't
> affect the GRDDL WG, so this WG can be closed any time now.
> Does it matter to anybody when we close this WG?
> Do you have an upcoming birthday or anything, Harry? ;-)

Eventually, yes :)

> If we close this WG, the comments list stays open,
> but there's no way to come up with an answer that's
> officially on behalf of the WG.
> If we don't close the WG, I suppose Harry can
> call a meeting any time, given a week's notice,
> and we could conduct WG business; e.g. collective
> action re HTML 5 head/@profile.

This is the only issue that I can think of that might motivate keeping the 
group open. However, it is a fairly important issue that *should* be 
addressed whenever the rel/head/profile issue seems resolved by the HTML 5 
WG. DanC - would it be correct to say that, despite the various comments 
on the GRDDL list, that profile is defintely going to be dropped?

If so, we have 2 options to fix the problem, I think:

1) Reconvene a few meetings in order to issue perhaps a WG note and some 
test-case errata to deal with HTML 5?

2) Wait for a new Semantic Web Deployment Group at some point that updates 
RDFa, GRDDL, etc. to work with HTML5 WG.

What do GRDDL WG members think?

> That might re-raise the question of availability
> of W3C staff resources for the WG, too.
> I've given it a little thought and I suppose I'm content
> to close the WG and leave GRDDL's fate in the
> hands of the community as a whole, as I said in...
> The details of data in documents; GRDDL, profiles, and HTML5
> 2008-08-22
> http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/08/the_details_of_data_in_documen.html
> http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/240
> * http://www.w3.org/2003/12/22-pp-faq.html#superset


 	Harry Halpin
 	Informatics, University of Edinburgh

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