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<HarryH> Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2008-01-16T11:00-0400
<HarryH> PROPOSED: to approve GRDDL WG -- 21 Nov 2007 as a true record
<danja> .bak?
<DanC> yeah, .bak; go figure.
<HarryH> RESOLVED: approved as a true record.
HarryH: W3C recommended that
GRDDL WG go into "suspended animation"
... We won't technically close, but we also won't have any
formal work.
... That ok?
... Not hearing "no", we'll proceed with the suspended
animation.
<HarryH> PROPOSED: Go into hiatus till W3C deems it necesary to close.
<HarryH> RESOLVED: We're going into hiatus.
<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to note a couple agenda requests: issue-tx-element, SemTech in May
<DanC> looks like this is done? ACTION: HarryH and Danja to set-up meeting with Kanzaki and Henry Story over ATOM, possibly in Dec, alert list when meeting scheduled
<DanC> (pointer to record of meeting?)
danja: Unclear what the next step should be after the meeting.
HarryH: Issues with the model that needed some decision-making.
<HarryH> ACTION [DONE]: HarryH and Danja to set-up meeting with Kanzaki and Henry Story over ATOM, possibly in Dec, alert list when meeting scheduled
HarryH: Meeting took place in #swig, should be able to find the "minutes" there.
<danja> 11th Jan?
<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to ask for a write-up of the current state *before* trying to solve all the remaining issues
DanC: Publish important work, even given the 4 small issues.
HarryH: I think Henry (Story) will publish, and I think we agreed to monthly meetings.
DanC: Where is that going to happen?
HarryH: #swig notes
DanC: When?
HarryH: Hopefully within a month or two.
<danja> http://chatlogs.planetrdf.com/swig/2008-01-11.html
<DanC> (scratchpad from 11 Jan is http://swig.xmlhack.com/2008/01/11/2008-01-11.html )
HarryH: Kansaki can only
participate over IRC.
... He and Henry are willing to continue testing the XSLT 2
version of the transformation.
DanC: When will the next chat take place?
HarryH: That's unclear.
<DanC> ... ~ 1 month
DanC: Suggest using grddl-comments ML for anything GRDDL-related.
<HarryH> ACTION: [DONE] danja and john-l to test and see if any XSLT is mature enough to add to ATOM namespace doc and has proper licensing (W3C Software license), as well as canvass all candidate XSLT authors for their opinion on ATOM/RSS 1.0 namespace. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action01]
I think it would be good to continue using grddl-comments. I know I'm interested.
danja: No change on my end.
<danja> btw http://hyperdata.org/twitcrit/doc.html describes a new toy using the Review vocab (intend to recycle for use with hReview/GRDDL)
DanC: SWIG needs to make a
decision to publish; usually that's pretty easy.
... It could probably be done in 3-4 days.
<DanC> story telling and test cases and hReview
<HarryH> ACTION: [DONE] DanC to ask OT and Karl D to invite Danja to contribute his hReview experience to the "story telling and test cases" work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action02]
<HarryH> ACTION: [WITHDRAWN] HarryH to e-mail Danja Docbook vocabulary mixing. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action03]
<HarryH> http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin/homepage/drafts/soccharter.html
<HarryH> Charter: Ian Davis endorse? DERI Galway?
<DanC> (who hosts the data portability list?)
HarryH: Chris Saad behind the data-portability list
<DanC> http://www.dataportability.org/ is in my inbox... let's see...
<HarryH> OpenID-like process.
<HarryH> XRDS which relies XRIs.
HarryH: Chris pretty focused on OpenID 2
HarryH: GRDDL is a pretty clear use-case for social networking
<danja> (Atom/OWL in that space too)
<HarryH> ACTION: [WITHDRAWN] HarryH To finish vCard mapping and publish as SWIG note, update profile URI with slightly tweaked GRDDL transform. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action04]
<DanC> http://esw.w3.org/topic/CustomRdfDialects
<danja> fyi, http://doapspace.org/ uses my unofficial hDOAP hackery
<DanC> "@@cite request to make it official"
HarryH: A few minor errors exist
<HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2007OctDec/0004.html
DanC: Deal with them as errata
<HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2007OctDec/0005.html
DanC: Should only republish spec if there is a significant change
<DanC> yes, the problem reports should be acknowledged with (a) a reply, and (b) a link from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/grddl-errata
DanC: Maintaining errata page is the responsibility of the director
<HarryH> ACTION: [WITHDRAWN] DanC to e-mail about HTML (OlivierT) and RDF and OWL Validator (EricP) linking to GRDDL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action05]
DanC: issue-tx-element says that
it would be good if GRDDL could find things within a
document
... How do you keep follow-your-nose but allow for
quoting?
... Combine semantics from parent document and embedded
stuff.
<DanC> <a rel="profile" href="xyz"><img src="logo" /></a> <- suppose xhtml ns doc said to follow those
<DanC> see RDF-Transparent in http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Syntax.html hmm... "Status: Obsolete."
chimezie: Email comment list with this idea?
DanC: Already done.
... Hopefully crack open a door for some hacking.
<DanC> (well, I emailed the WG list, not the comments list. and I didn't elaborate much on technical details)
DanC: There may still be an opportunity for tutorials.
HarryH: I won't be going.
danja: I "might well" be going.
<DanC> HH: I'm going to european semweb conf around that time. conflict. [is that on http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin/ ? I don't see it.]
<danja> one of the SemTech organizers asked talis if I could give a general talk, so I'm kind-of obliged to go
<DanC> parting comment: the GRDDL schedule/process gets better and better the more I look at it in comparison with HTML 5 etc.