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Re: ISSUE-23: How to relate a person to a building/room? [People]

From: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:27:43 +0000
Cc: W3C GLD WG <public-gld-wg@w3.org>, dmacpherson@CANNONDESIGN.COM
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To: rreck@rrecktek.com

Excellent, thanks, Ronald (and Deborah!)

As I said, maybe we should focus on the use cases first, then derive  
requirements and determine if building/rooms (and any other entity  
type, really) is in scope or not.

In any case, this is valuable insight and will certainly be of great  
use, down the line ...

Cheers,
	Michael
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On 30 Jan 2012, at 15:23, Ronald P. Reck wrote:

> My friend Deborah and I have discussed this and similar issues for  
> several years now, and this is what she replied when I asked her.  
> She is willing to talk about it, if anyone would like to find out  
> more.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: ISSUE-23: How to relate a person to a building/room?  
> [People]
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:13:18 -0500
> From: MacPherson, Deborah <dmacpherson@CANNONDESIGN.COM>
> To: rreck@rrecktek.com <rreck@rrecktek.com>
>
> Hi Ron
>
> To represent buildings - OmniClass Tables 11 and 12 (http://www.omniclass.org 
> ) is facility types by function and by form, Table 11 (function) is  
> currently being updated. Attached is a mapping between existing  
> Table 11 with International Code Council occupancy classes.
>
> There is also OGC CityGML http://schemas.opengis.net/citygml/. Even  
> though the facility types are not very good, CityGML is still a  
> useful overall schema that includes geometry.
>
> The Open Standards for Real Estate Consortium (OSCRE) has a terrific  
> new proposal for Real Property Unique ID's (RPUID) like vehicle  
> identification numbers, need a non-profit org like ICANN to maintain  
> a registry.
>
> RE: VCard - the IETF and SmartGrid people are working on some  
> interesting ideas to identify building capabilities at a glance...
>
> Moving inside the building:
>
> For rooms - OmniClass Tables 13 and 14 - spaces by function and  
> spaces by form. Table 13 was just approved by the US National  
> Building Information Modeling Standard (NBIMS). Table 14 is in  
> development and is an ideal link to GIS.
>
> To relate a person to the building/room - ideal would be pulling a  
> subset from NIEM with extensive definitions and relations about  
> people, and the attached spreadsheet.
>
> RE: the Buildings and Rooms Vocabulary [1] would in fact be capable  
> to do this, however the namespace is sub-optimal, in terms of  
> stability.
> I think the classes are all wrong and need to be more like the  
> attached "NBIMHierarchicalRelationship" where a room is part of a  
> floor rather than vice-versa. Also "zone" is more a appropriate  
> concept than floor section. "Desk" might not be as useful as "Seat"  
> if tracking computers and workers.
>
> "Occupant" is the right concept for a person - however - there more  
> parameters such as typical operating hours, whether people live  
> there etc. are needed to be useful.
>
> Finally "Facility" is the preferred term because building is both a  
> noun and a verb and has all kinds of other connotations in other  
> domains.
>
> Regards,
>
> Deb
>
>
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: ISSUE-23: How to relate a person to a building/room? [People]
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> ISSUE-23: How to relate a person to a building/room? [People]
>
> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/23
>
> Raised by: Michael Hausenblas
> On product: People
>
> There are really two issues here, namely how to represent buildings  
> and
> rooms  and how to relate a person to the building/room. It seems that
> the Buildings and Rooms Vocabulary [1] would in fact be capable to do
> this, however the namespace is sub-optimal, in terms of stability.
>
> [1] http://vocab.deri.ie/rooms#
>
>
> <NBIMHierarchicalRelationship.jpg><FacilityTypeTemplate.xls>
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