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Re: Google and Car Schema Data

From: Paul Houle <ontology2@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:54:08 -0400
Message-ID: <CAE__kdQF3YgLP144sHVUZbXMk3PwwSFMT_xoMPjnZ6Jq0_Tc6Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Tom Adamich <vls@tusco.net>
Cc: Eric Miltsch <eric.miltsch@gmail.com>, Rob Bertholf <rob@bertholf.com>, Allan Chell <allan@cdemo.com>, William Davidson <hondaspeder@gmail.com>, public-gao@w3.org
I like the "VIN Code Mapping".

There are lots of identifiers out there that have an internal structure of
some kind,  such as the UPC codes, Legal Entity Identifier,  ISBN,  etc.
It would be nice to have an ontology of identifiers that would address
these issues in general,  but in the case of an automotive ontology it
ought to be a requirement that anything that is commonly in the VIN can be
represented.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Tom Adamich <vls@tusco.net> wrote:

> Thanks to Eric and Dylan for their feedback, as historical context and
> search behavior are two important aspects of ontology building (on which
> Schema.org is based).
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> Should we begin building possible query simulations within the categories:
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> Ex. Vehicle history
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> 1.       When was this vehicle shipped to the dealer (new auto transport)?
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> 2.       What is the code for the line on which it was manufactured? –
> VIN Code mapping – example
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Honda_assembly_plants
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> 3.       Who/what held title to the vehicle prior to final purchase
> (dealer reassignment, etc.)?
>
> Vehicle condition
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> 1.       What vehicle condition ratings exist for antique vehicles?
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> 2.       What vehicle condition standard is being used (NAAA, Hagerty,
> Kelley Blue Book, etc.)
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>
> …Just some thoughts.
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> Tom
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> *From:* Eric Miltsch [mailto:eric.miltsch@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:39 PM
> *To:* Tom Adamich; Rob Bertholf; Allan Chell
>
> *Cc:* Paul Houle; William Davidson; public-gao@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: Google and Car Schema Data
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> Also glad to contribute regarding additional search behaviors and patterns
> - especially as it applies to different user intent.
>
> I can see this helping sort the priority of elements used and
> understanding the predictive nature of searches. (Learning the users'
> cadence)
>
> Thank you,
>
> Eric Miltsch
> President - Command Z Automotive Consulting, Inc.
> 585.704.8841
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> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:17 PM Tom Adamich <vls@tusco.net> wrote:
>
> …Happy to contribute from the administrative side (as I did with the
> WikiMarkup).
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> My areas of interest:
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> ·         Vehicle specifications
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> ·         Vehicle repair status
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> ·         Vehicle communication with repair diagnostics
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> Please advise; take care.
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> Tom
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> Tom Adamich, MLS
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> President
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> Visiting Librarian Service
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> 224 Chauncey Ave. N.W.
>
> P.O. Box 932
>
> New Philadelphia, OH 44663
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> 330-364-4410
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> vls@tusco.net
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>
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> *From:* Rob Bertholf [mailto:rob@bertholf.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2015 1:28 PM
> *To:* Allan Chell
> *Cc:* Paul Houle; William Davidson; public-gao@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: Google and Car Schema Data
>
>
>
> Martin/Mirek/All,
>
> Would it be a good idea to identify asks and we can chime in on what
> aspect each of us could assist with based on our background and passions?
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>
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> I had initialized the GAO Community Charter discussion page (
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Talk:GAO_Community_Charter) with how I could
> potentially be best leveraged.  Is there a more appropriate location for
> this?  Is there a location where you intend to post specific asks that we
> can assist with?
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>
> Nice to connect this morning!
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>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Allan Chell <allan@cdemo.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with Paul as we have smaller media companies that are now
> auto-generating mark-up on all of their product detail pages so that they
> can provide a better search experience from there own site. This practice
> will inevitably impact the exposure that search engines will need to
> provide in the future as well.
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> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Paul Houle <ontology2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My take on Google v. schema.org is that Google will do what they want to
> do.
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> Google (usually through Matt Cutts) frequently makes pronouncements about
> what you should do to improve findability.  please remember that Google
> would really rather that you gave up on trying to rank well and just bought
> AdSense ads.
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> As for schema.org,  note that the technology is progressing to the point
> where organizations smaller than Google and Bing can consume the markup and
> do useful things with it,  so I say go ahead and use it.
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> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:19 PM, William Davidson <hondaspeder@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Does google display schema data and or look at it at all for car?
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> Trying to see if this will be valuable to add to our products.
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> Thanks,
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> Will
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> -Will
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Paul Houle

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