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Re: [Filter Effects][css3-transforms] Using MathML for formulas

From: Dirk Schulze <dschulze@adobe.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:54:22 -0700
To: Paul Topping <pault@dessci.com>
CC: Rik Cabanier <cabanier@gmail.com>, "public-fx@w3.org" <public-fx@w3.org>
Message-ID: <834CD985-8224-430A-88F2-B6A92BA9EBD2@adobe.com>
I would like to know more about MathJax before I come to a conclusion for my self. MathJax is a Javascript library. Content in specifications should not rely on JS at all in my eyes.

But if I understood it correctly, than you can add formulas in pure MathML and the library would take care about the rendering? It would still mean that you cannot read the specification on disabled JavaScript and missing MathML support.

Is there a benefit to the idea of Aryeh to use CSS and check for the MathML namespace? My priority is the accessibility. If we can use pure MathML, the specs might be more accessible. The problem with Aryeh's solution is, that current screenreader don't inspect elements which are not displayed on the screen (e.g display:none). Therefore, on IE the MathML code wouldn't be accessible for screen reader users since the code does not get displayed. Would that be different with MathJax?


On Apr 23, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Paul Topping wrote:

> It is not as fast as if MathML were supported directly in the browser but JavaScript performance is getting faster all the time. It also depends a lot on what browser you are talking about and what device. It is very fast in IE with MathPlayer installed as it defers to MathPlayer to draw the MathML. It is much slower on an iPhone, for example. Best thing to do is try it on a sample page. There are also links to other sites that use MathJax listed on the MathJax site. You might find some analogous content.
> Paul
> From: Rik Cabanier [mailto:cabanier@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:26 PM
> To: Paul Topping
> Cc: public-fx@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [Filter Effects][css3-transforms] Using MathML for formulas
> This is great! Thanks for pointing this out.
> Do you know if the performance is good? Some spec pages are quite long and I think mathjax has to process all the text.
> Rik
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Paul Topping <pault@dessci.com> wrote:
> You may be interested in the MathJax project (www.mathjax.org). It is an
> open source JavaScript engine for displaying MathML and LaTeX equations
> in all modern web browsers and ebook readers. It essentially fills the
> gaps in browser support of MathML.
> Paul Topping
> Design Science, Inc.
Received on Monday, 23 April 2012 20:54:52 UTC

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