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Re: TELECON AGENDA 4 March 2009

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:40:39 +0000
Message-ID: <ed77aa9f0903040640l7205833dh78150affcdef6e71@mail.gmail.com>
To: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Cc: public-forms@w3.org
Hi John,

We're having a coding marathon this week, so no-one from Backplane
will be present today. Sorry about that.

All the best,

Mark

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:36 PM, John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Regrets so far: Leigh (possibly late)
> Start Time: 10:45am Eastern US (15:45Z, except 14:45Z during US DST)
> Duration: 90 minutes
>
> Previous minutes:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0088.html
> IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-forms-minutes.html
>
> Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
> Kenneth/MarkS, Raman, Susan, Ulrich/Sebastian, Rafael/Rogelio,
> Charlie, Steven, Erik, Nick, Keith, MarkB/Paul,
>
> AGENDA ITEMS:
> =============
> * = be ready to discuss
> + = discuss time permitting
>
> Reports, Etc.
> -------------
> * Upcoming telecons
> DST changes
>
> Next FtF
>
> * The Forms Newsletter/News items
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0094.html
>
> XForms 1.1
> Implementation report progress
>
> XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1
>
> Rich Web Application Backplane
>
>
> Action Items
> ------------
> Action Item List:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0093.html
>
> Administrative Issues
> ---------------------
> HTML Validator updates for XForms and "XForms for HTML"
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Nov/0063.html
> - Discussed on Nov. 26, 2008
>
> W3C Spec matrix
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Nov/0071.html
> - Discussed on Nov. 26, 2008
>
> Forms Task Force
> - Latest:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Jun/0000.html
> - Architecture alignment strawman:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0068.html
>
> Fix our shortname issue
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html
> http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions
>
>
> PROGRESS ON WORKING GROUP GOALS
> ===============================
>
> Issue Classification
> ----------------------
> Nothing new
>
> * XForms 1.1 Completion
> -----------------------
> Issues
> - - - -
> - Chiba implementation report (full)
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0002.html
>
> - AgenceXML implementation report
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Feb/0028.html
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Mar/0000.html
>
> - Spec error on "at" attribute
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0000.html
>
> - Default for separator attribute
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0005.html
>
> Latest implementation testing status
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0049.html
>
>
> Test suite changes
> - - - - - - - - - -
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0035.html
>
> Modifications from Erik's action item?
> Modifications from Nick's action items?
>
> - Test 11.11.2.a
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0078.html
>
> - Test B.14a move attribute
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Feb/0025.html
>
> - Using submission to validate data
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0084.html
>
> - relevance pruning before validation
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0083.html
>
> - Question about how to update test 11.9.4.b
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0091.html
>
> - problem with test 11.1.p
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0001.html
>
> - Ongoing test suite maintenance
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0038.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0039.html
>
> Advancing XForms for HTML
> -------------------------
> - Assertions
> - Examples
> - Test Suite
>
> + XForms 1.2 Features
> ---------------------
> - Context everywhere, context on bind
> - Data driven switch
> - case()
> - Better expression of default trigger
> - submissions that put and get binary resources
> - submission method default is "get"
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0065.html
> - Ability to suppress RRRR on submission completion
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0007.html
> - Lazy authoring improvement: empty instance exists even if no refs
>
> Review Possibilities
> JSON submissions?
> submission to a "new" window?
> mediatype="text/html" on textarea for rich text content?
> XML Events 2?
> Dialogs?
> Model improvements (optional, nested, external/src, exceptions)?
> UI event notification improvements?
> See older issues below?
>
> Analyzing Modularization for AJAX Programmers
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> Modularization of XForms based on markup seemed at one point a necessary
> step of decoupling modules against which APIs could be written.
> However, the working group now wants to approach the problem by starting
> with the needed APIs and letting the modularization requirements follow.
>
> XForms 2.0
> ----------
>
> Refactor dependencies to detect automatic rebuild conditions and reduce
> circular dependencies
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/att-0069/2008-05-28.html#topic6
>
> Review possibilities
>
> Older issues
> ------------
> Currency data values, etc.
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0041.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0043.html
>
> Validity notification on initial or hidden data
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0015.html
> - Isn't it about time we add an xforms-control-initialize event?
> - Seems we need it for modularization to work right
> - Defer to face to face meeting
>
> The xforms-link-exception
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Aug/0001.html
> Discussed Aug. 20, 2008. Need to dispatch xforms-link-error to
> instance rather than link-exception to model. For legacy, if the
> link-error bubbles up to model, it could throw link-exception, but
> then the author can prevent the exception by cancelling the error
> Note: xforms-link-error is not currently cancellable
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Aug/0003.html
>
> xforms-submit-done response-body and host language submission result
> targeting
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0048.html
> Discussed 21 May 2008; perhaps only for replace="none"
> Concern was about efficiency.  Could add "want-response-body" default false
> in
> xforms-submit, then if turned true the response-body would be non-empty in
> the
> xforms-submit-done.  Host language could then push response-body content to
> a new window.
>
> xforms-submit-serialize receives empty submission-body value
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Nov/0061.html
> Discussed 03 Dec 2008; decided to allow future version feature that
> helps control whether submission body is empty on start
> Context info of xforms-submit could provide a writable flag
>
>
> =============================================
>
> [[Magic for irc channel:
>
> /invite zakim
> zakim, this will be forms
> /invite rrsagent
> rrsagent, make log public
>
> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
> Agenda: <url of this message>
> Chair: <whoever>
> Scribe: <whoever> (use exact IRC name, or add "scribenick: irc_name")
> Regrets: <name>, <name>, ...
> Topic: <topic 1>
> ... minutes ...
> Resolution: ... resolution ...
> Topic: <topic 2>
> ...
> ACTION: <someone> to <something>
> ...
>
> Use sed edits to fix previous lines, like s/Steve/Steven/
>
> *** AT THE END OF THE CALL, rrsagent will list the actions by typing
> actions?
>
> *** Zakim will announce who was present by typing
> zakim, bye
>
> *** rrsagent dismissal
> rrsagent, make minutes
> rrsagent, bye
>
> *** If someone by chance dismisses rrsagent before the minutes
> *** are made, just invite rrsagent back
>
> ]]



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http://webBackplane.com/mark-birbeck

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