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RE: Today's quick check of ubiquity

From: Klotz, Leigh <Leigh.Klotz@xerox.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:53:34 -0700
Message-ID: <E254B0A7E0268949ABFE5EA97B7D0CF404E053B5@USA7061MS01.na.xerox.net>
To: "Mark Birbeck" <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
Cc: "John Boyer" <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>, "Charles F Wiecha" <wiecha@us.ibm.com>, "Forms WG (new)" <public-forms@w3.org>

Thanks!  I joined the user group and will wait for your updates. The
tests look good and I'm looking forward to trying it with my own forms
when you get the deployment details worked out.
Leigh. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Birbeck [mailto:mark.birbeck@x-port.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:50 PM
To: Klotz, Leigh
Cc: John Boyer; Charles F Wiecha; Forms WG (new)
Subject: Re: Today's quick check of ubiquity

Hi Leigh,

> I've sent Charlie a more detailed list of the problems I had trying to

> use locally; it should be fairly simple for them to be sorted out.

As John mentioned, it's going to be a little while before IBM lets IBM
programmers do some programming on this. :;) So the best thing to do
would be to join the Google Group that is linked to from the front of
the project, and mail your stuff to there.

Myself and my colleague Paul Butcher were trying to get a few bits and
pieces tidied up in the library before we opened the doors, but it looks
like we might be too late. :) So please bear with us as we try to get
the infrastructure and modules ready for wider community involvement.

Regards,

Mark

> Leigh.
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> From: John Boyer [mailto:boyerj@ca.ibm.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:35 PM
> To: Charles F Wiecha
> Cc: Klotz, Leigh; Forms WG (new)
> Subject: Re: Today's quick check of ubiquity
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> Actually, the hope is that you could deploy your forms to your own 
> server, but frankly your script tag could point to the Google Code
repository.
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> We don't have branches quite yet, but the idea over time is that 
> pointing at the branches would be safer than the trunk for real 
> applications, but for experimentation, you should just point at the
trunk.
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> Our goal is to advance this implementation as a reference 
> implementation based on high conformance to the 1.1 test suite, and to

> do so in a timeframe that makes sense for advancing 1.1 to PR.
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> Right now, Mark Birbeck and his team are carrying a lot of the 
> implementation responsibility for this because, as you might imagine, 
> even though IBM is providing funding for this project, it is a one to 
> two month process for us to get approval to contribute.  We are 
> working through that now and should be able to make many contributions

> to the code in the latter half of this year.  Meanwhile, we will be 
> able to contribute by helping provide feedback on where conformance
needs work relative to the test suite.
>  This is where Keith Wells in IBM emerging standards will be 
> invaluable to this effort in the near term as it is not contributing 
> code to the project, but it is a necessary part of the project's
success.
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> Finally, what Charlie said is true that one is free to take a snapshot

> of the code and deploy it locally or incorporate it into other 
> projects.  The license is Apache so this is a free thing to do.  In 
> about six weeks or so, contributions will be welcome and can be made
by non-members using standard
> diff patches.   However, whether a member or non-member, any
contributions
> must be accompanied by a simple permission form that we will make 
> available when external contributions start to be acceptable.  This 
> permission form will be necessary to maintain the Apache licensing for

> the code.  We will just store the scanned version of the permission 
> forms in the project so that everyone's legal due diligence can go
smoothly.
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> Cheers,
> John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
> Senior Technical Staff Member
> Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
> Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
> Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software IBM Victoria Software Lab
> E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com
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> Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer
> Blog RSS feed:
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/rss/JohnBoyer?flavor=rssdw
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> Charles F Wiecha <wiecha@us.ibm.com>
> Sent by: public-forms-request@w3.org
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> HI Leigh -- there's no "deployment" model as such...just an SVN
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> For now, the easiest thing to do is checkout/download the library and 
> load your forms locally.  Charlie
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> Charles Wiecha
> Manager, Multichannel Web Interaction
> IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
> P.O. Box 704
> Yorktown Heights, N.Y.  10598
> Phone: (914) 784-6180, T/L 863-6180, Cell: (914) 320-2614 
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> I hadn't properly created the HTML file reference to ubiquity, so it 
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> I can get the examples from the ubiquity site to work from there, but 
> haven't figured out how to deploy my own forms yet.  Maybe Mark or 
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