TELECON AGENDA: 14 MAY 2008

Regrets so far: None
Start Time: 10:45am Eastern US (15:45Z, except 14:45Z during US DST)
Duration: 90 minutes

Previous minutes: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0006.html
IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-forms-minutes.html

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
Joern, Blake, Kenneth, David, Rafael, MarkB, Charlie, MarkS, 
Raman, Sebastian, Erik, Susan, Nick, Keith, Ulrich, Rogelio

AGENDA ITEMS:
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* = to be discussed

REPORTS (5 minutes)
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Upcoming telecons

* Next FtF (June 9-12, Amsterdam)

The Forms Newsletter

XForms 1.1

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1

Rich Web Application Backplane


ACTION ITEMS (5 minutes)
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Action Item List:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0014.html

Those with >= 10 actions should commit to taking down one specific
action item from their list this week. Can't be one someone else
has already done.  Which one?

BUG FIX ISSUES (5 minutes)
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Fix definition of Validity (TBD May 21*)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0118.html
- Looking for resolution to make changes identified in 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0133.html
 
Expression dependencies and dynamic dependencies (TBD May 28)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0100.html

Non-selected case and non-relevant group
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0051.html

Offlist ping about answer for charset and encoding (action MarkB on May 2)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0060.html

The meaning of message
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html

The repeat-* attributes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html


ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES (5 minutes)
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* Forms Task Force

- Strawman "architecture alignment" response: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0068.html

- Latest in thread: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0084.html

- Need responses to 
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Apr/0024.html
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Apr/0017.html


Fix our shortname issue
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html
http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions

Marketing of XForms
Name/Tagline: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0060.html
Community: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0054.html

Yahoo!
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0010.html


FUTURE VERSION ISSUES (70 minutes)
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* Form tag(s), implied model(s)
- Got resolution last week on basic principle of adding form tag
- Need to discussion minor point #1 and #2 in 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0013.html

* Implied submission with form tag and/or with submit
- The submit element would use default submission of form tag, 
  but seems useful to be able to imply a further submission by
  using submission attributes on submit
- Looking for resolution of above
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0063.html

* Explicit models as inner (nested) models of implicit model, external 
models with src
- Need to discuss #3 in 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0013.html

- Looking for resolution that expressed models within a form tag
  can use src for external definition and that they are processed
  as inner models to the implied model.  Resolution implies adding
  these concepts to XForms proper.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0108.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0066.html

* Specifying initial value
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0097.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0053.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0052.html

Some meanings for use of name attribute
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0065.html

Continue with streamlined XForms development
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0054.html

Message Module
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0081.html

We should automate boolean-from-string() on the boolean MIPs (relevant, 
readonly, constraint)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0077.html

We should allow the result of calculate to be cast according to the 
assigned datatype,
e.g. no need to call boolean-from-string() if calculate assigns to a 
boolean node.

Make progress on the XForms message module
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_message_module

Make progress on Model improvements (optional model, nested model, 
external model)
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Make_model_optional
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Externally_defined_models_with_src_attribute


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