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Re: Form tag(s), implied model(s)and implied submission

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 15:06:32 -0700
To: Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>
Cc: public-forms <public-forms@w3.org>, public-forms-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF997EE4B2.EB81842A-ON88257445.00792579-88257445.00797323@ca.ibm.com>
I agree, also since the author may still want to do submission, but may 
express it with an explicit xforms submission, in which case the required 
action attribute is just extra baggage.

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Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com> 
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Re: Form tag(s), implied model(s)and implied submission







All,

What if you just want to use <form> to group a model and controls? In 
that case, I think there should be no required attributes on <form>, 
and no implicit submission should be created.

-Erik

On May 9, 2008, at 1:44 AM, Nick_Van_den_Bleeken@inventivegroup.com 
wrote:

>
> All,
>
> We were a bit under manned on the previous XForms call, but 
> nevertheless we decided to make a resolution to add the optional 
> form container element to the XForms language. I'm eager to write 
> some spec ready text related to "Form tag(s), implied model(s)and 
> implied submission". But just want to be sure that the people that 
> couldn't attend the previous call are in line with what I felt what 
> the direction on the previous call was.
>
> 1) Add a form tag with :
>      - required action attribute : Maps to action attribute on a 
> submission
>      - optional method attribute : Maps to method on submission
>      - optional enctype attribute : Maps to serialization  on 
> submission
>      - We don't support the following attributes : accept, name, 
> onsubmit, onreset, accept-charset
>
> 2) Form element creates an implicit model if no model is present as 
> a child. The current model is changed to the first model child of 
> model or the implicit model if no model element was present as a 
> child of the form element
>
> 3) An implicit submission is added to the 'first' model (can be the 
> implied model) of the form element using the attributes on the form 
> element
>
> 4) Allow submission attributes on the send and submit elements, the 
> local attributes will override the attributes of the referenced 
> submission. When no submission is specified the implied submission 
> will be used as a basis.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nick Van den Bleeken  -  Research & Development Manager
> Inventive Designers
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>
> [1] 
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Allow_submission_elements_without_model_element

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