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Re: TELECON AGENDA - 7 MAY 2008

From: Ulrich Nicolas Lissť <unl@dreamlab.net>
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 16:24:06 +0200
Message-ID: <4821BB86.9000102@dreamlab.net>
To: Nick_Van_den_Bleeken@inventivegroup.com
CC: public-forms <public-forms@w3.org>

Sorry, regrets from me too. I'll be on a train.

Regards,
Uli.

Nick_Van_den_Bleeken@inventivegroup.com wrote:
> 
> Regrets so far: Steven, Erik (possible), John, Leigh
> Start Time: 10:45am Eastern US (15:45Z, except 14:45Z during US DST)
> Duration: 90 minutes
> 
> Previous minutes: 
> _http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0132.html__
> IRC supplement: <http://www.w3.org/2008/04/30-forms-minutes.html>_ 
> <http://www.w3.org/2008/04/30-forms-minutes.html>_http://www.w3.org/2008/04/30-forms-minutes.html__
> 
> Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
> Joern, Blake, Kenneth, Rogelio, David, Rafael, MarkB, Charlie,
> MarkS, Raman, Sebastian, Erik, Susan, Nick, Keith, Ulrich
> 
> AGENDA ITEMS:
> =============
> * = to be discussed
> 
> REPORTS (0 minutes)
> ===================
> 
> Upcoming telecons
> 
> Next FtF (June 9-12, Amsterdam)
> 
> The Forms Newsletter
> 
> XForms 1.1
> 
> XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1
> 
> Rich Web Application Backplane_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0113.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0113.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0113.html___
> __http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/2006/backplane/_
> 
> 
> ACTION ITEMS (5 minutes)
> =========================
> * Action Item List:_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0001.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0001.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0001.html__
> 
> Those with >= 10 actions should commit to taking down one specific
> action item from their list this week. Can't be one someone else
> has already done.  Which one?
> 
> BUG FIX ISSUES (45 minutes)
> ==========================
> * Submission "validation" issue_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0118.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0118.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0118.html__
> - Looking for resolution to make changes identified in
>   <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0133.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0133.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0133.html__
>  
> * Expression dependencies and dynamic dependencies_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0100.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0100.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0100.html__
> 
> * Error using origin attr in B4_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0127.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0127.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0127.html__
> - Assign action to John to fix and to make special note in spec that
>  origin evaluated relative to result of context if present
>  (further ensuring general understanding that context overrides
>   the in-scope evaluation context)
> 
> Non-selected case and non-relevant group_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0051.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0051.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0051.html__
> 
> Offlist ping about answer for charset and encoding (action MarkB on May 2)_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0060.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0060.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0060.html__
> 
> The meaning of message_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html___
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html___
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html___
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html__
> 
> The repeat-* attributes_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html__
> 
> 
> ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES (5 minutes)
> =================================
> * Response for recursive tree display..._
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Apr/0003.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Apr/0003.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Apr/0003.html__
> 
> Forms Task Force
> _
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0085.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0085.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0085.html__
> 
> - Responses to
>   
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Apr/0024.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Apr/0024.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Apr/0024.html__
>   
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Apr/0017.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Apr/0017.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Apr/0017.html__
> 
> Strawman "architecture alignment" response: 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0068.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0068.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0068.html__
> Latest in thread: 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0084.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0084.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0084.html__
> 
> Fix our shortname issue_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html___
> _ <http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions>_ 
> <http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions>_http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions__
> 
> Marketing of XForms
> Name/Tagline: 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0060.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0060.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0060.html__
> Community: 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0054.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0054.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0054.html__
> 
> Yahoo!_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0010.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0010.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0010.html__
> 
> 
> FUTURE VERSION ISSUES (30 minutes)
> ==================================
> * Form tag(s), implied model(s)
> - Seems like we got to consensus on list that XForms tagset
>  would benefit from the form tag since we resolved that
>  XForms tagset will allow streamlined syntax based on
>  UI controls plus attributes to imply various MIPs
> - Looking for a resolution to have form tag included to
>  surround the stuff that will constitute its implied
>  model, and allow multiple form tags in document, and
>  have main attributes of form tag imply a default submission_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0115.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0115.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0115.html___
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0064.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0064.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0064.html___
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0069.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0069.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0069.html__
> 
> * Implied submission with form tag and/or with submit
> - The submit element would use default submission of form tag,
>  but seems useful to be able to imply a further submission by
>  using submission attributes on submit
> - Looking for resolution of above_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0063.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0063.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0063.html__
> 
> * Explicit models as inner (nested) models of implicit model, external 
> models with src
> - Once we have form tag with implied model, it is reasonable to
>  allow author ramp-up to explicit models for specific purposes,
>  e.g. bundle of instance data, binds, submission for web service
>  These could be expressed as model elements within form tag, and
>  should ideally have their definitions stored externally.
> - Looking for resolution that expressed models within a form tag
>  can use src for external definition and that they are processed
>  as inner models to the implied model.  Resolution implies adding
>  these concepts to XForms proper._
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0108.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0108.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0108.html___
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0066.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0066.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0066.html__
> 
> 
> Some meanings for use of name attribute_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0065.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0065.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0065.html__
> 
> Specifying initial value_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0097.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0097.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0097.html___
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0053.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0053.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0053.html___
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0052.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0052.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0052.html__
> 
> Continue with streamlined XForms development_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0054.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0054.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0054.html__
> 
> Message Module_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0081.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0081.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0081.html__
> 
> We should automate boolean-from-string() on the boolean MIPs (relevant, 
> readonly, constraint)_
> _ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0077.html>_ 
> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0077.html>_http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0077.html__
> 
> We should allow the result of calculate to be cast according to the 
> assigned datatype,
> e.g. no need to call boolean-from-string() if calculate assigns to a 
> boolean node.
> 
> Make progress on the XForms message module_
> _ <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_message_module>_ 
> <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_message_module>_http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_message_module__
> 
> Make progress on Model improvements (optional model, nested model, 
> external model)_
> _ <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Make_model_optional>_ 
> <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Make_model_optional>_http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Make_model_optional___
> _ 
> <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition>_ 
> <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition>_http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition___
> _ 
> <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Externally_defined_models_with_src_attribute>_ 
> <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Externally_defined_models_with_src_attribute>_http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Externally_defined_models_with_src_attribute__
> 
> 
> =============================================
> 
> [[Magic for irc channel:
> 
> /invite zakim
> zakim, this will be forms
> /invite rrsagent
> rrsagent, make log public
> 
> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
> Agenda: <url of this message>
> Chair: <whoever>
> Scribe: <whoever> (use exact IRC name, or add "scribenick: irc_name")
> Regrets: <name>, <name>, ...
> Topic: <topic 1>
> ... minutes ...
> Resolution: ... resolution ...
> Topic: <topic 2>
> ...
> ACTION: <someone> to <something>
> ...
> 
> Use sed edits to fix previous lines, like s/Steve/Steven/
> 
> *** AT THE END OF THE CALL, rrsagent will list the actions by typing
> actions?
> 
> *** Zakim will announce who was present by typing
> zakim, bye
> 
> *** rrsagent dismissal
> rrsagent, make minutes
> rrsagent, bye
> 
> *** If someone by chance dismisses rrsagent before the minutes
> *** are made, just invite rrsagent back
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Ulrich Nicolas Lissť
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