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Re: Questions related to "Add support for default values without the need of an instance element"

From: Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:20:18 -0700
Message-Id: <0AFAB82B-0D57-4A8C-BB23-287C571D7BA0@orbeon.com>
To: public-xforms@w3.org

Nick, Uli:

I also don't think that setting a value to the empty string should  
cause a default value to be reapplied.

More than a "default value", maybe this should be called "initial  
value".

-Erik

On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:02 AM, Ulrich Nicolas Lissť wrote:

>
> Nick,
>
> please see my comments inline.
>
> On Wed, March 12, 2008 12:28 pm, Nick_Van_den_Bleeken@inventivegroup.com
> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> While creating the contents for the XForms 1.2 feature "Add support  
>> for
>> default values without the need of an instance element" I ran  
>> across some
>> questions the group has to get consensus on, before I can continue:
>>
>> Wiki page :
>> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Add_support_for_default_values_without_the_need_of_an_instance_element
>>
>> If the answer to all the following questions is 'Yes' then I think  
>> I can
>> create a canonical XForms version but I just want to know the group
>> beliefs that a positive answer to this questions is desirable:
>>
>> 1) Does the initial value gets reinforced when the user sets the  
>> value of
>> the control to the empty string? Yes
>
> No, I don't think so. It would prevent the user from deleting values  
> on
> purpose. The default value should only be reinforced upon xforms- 
> reset.
>
>> 2) Does the initial value only gets applied if the initial text  
>> content of
>> the bound node is empty? Yes
>
> Ok.
>
>> 3) Does the initial value gets applied when a control is created  
>> due to
>> the insertion of a node and its text content is empty? Yes
>
> Ok.
>
>> 4) Does the initial value gets reinforced when the node to which the
>> control was bound changes and the text content of the new node is  
>> empty?
>> Yes
>
> No, see above.
>
> Regards,
> Uli.
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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