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Re: @resource (was Re: Renaming target attribute of submission)

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:11:19 -0700
To: "Mark Birbeck" <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
Cc: "Forms WG" <public-forms@w3.org>, "Steven Pemberton" <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
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Hi Steven and Mark,

This attribute refactoring seems to be getting a little out of hand, eh?

The concern with 'target', which I still don't entirely agree is a problem 
but will let rest, is that it could be reused in the future to mean 
something different *within the submission element*. 

RDFa injects metadata on an element from the outside, which appears to be 
different than what happens with *local* attributes.

RDFa needs to have a prefixing methodology so that its contributions can 
be distinguished from the local attributes of an element.  This can be 
done with actual XML namespaces or, in scenarios where XML namespaces are 
not... preferred, by pseudo-namespacing with a dash-separated prefix such 
as rdfa-

The resource attribute is a case in point for why it is RDFa that needs 
modification.  XForms 1.1 is already in CR, and the implementability of 
the attribute when named resource is not in question.  But more 
importantly, we used the name resource for consistency with the load 
action, which has been part of a W3C Recommendation since 2003.  Still 
more, we got the name from XLink.  Surely, the name in XForms should be 
allowed to stand...

John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
Senior Technical Staff Member
Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
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"Mark Birbeck" <mark.birbeck@x-port.net> 
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04/29/2008 03:11 AM

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"Steven Pemberton" <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
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Re: @resource (was Re: Renaming target attribute of submission)







Damn...well-spotted.

:)

2008/4/29 Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>:
>
>  Running through my slides for my forthcoming XForms tutorial at XTech, 
it
> struck me that if we are worrying about @target now, we should be 
worrying
> about @resource as well, since @resource is part of RDFa, and therefore 
will
> be appearing everywhere in XHTML documents soon:
>
>         http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/#rdfa-attributes
>
>  Steven
>
>



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