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Re: Post Postscript, Re: ACTION NEEDED (Charlie, Nick, Leigh): XForms 1.1 schema update

From: Charles F Wiecha <wiecha@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:00:26 -0400
To: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Cc: Forms WG (new) <public-forms@w3.org>, public-forms-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF2CB513AB.439483E7-ON85257360.007340D8-85257360.00736547@us.ibm.com>
I'm happy to start from this basis.  In terms of the suggested work
breakdown, I'll take the actions updates if that's ok with folks.  Nick,
Leigh, please confirm your agreement with the starting point (XForms 1.0
schema as described below) and work breakdown and I'll get started on the
action updates...Thanks, Charlie


Charles Wiecha
Manager, Multichannel Web Interaction
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
P.O. Box 704
Yorktown Heights, N.Y.  10598
Phone: (914) 784-6180, T/L 863-6180, Cell: (914) 320-2614
wiecha@us.ibm.com


                                                                                  
                                                                                  
                                                                                  
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Apologies for essentially sending this again, but

1) it seemed a good idea to reiterate that the best approach (the one I
think we should take) is to quickly update the XForms 1.0 schema with the
new attributes and the few new child elements added in 1.1.

There are a few reasons for this.  First, it looks like a task that a few
people could do in a few hours each. Compare with the fact that we have not
had the upgrade to the modularized version in something like six or seven
months now.  Second, I believe there is some concern about whether the
modularized schemas will work in (virtually) all tools due to use of
advanced features.  I'd rather have a schema that is more easily understood
and more likely to be successfully processed.  If someone wants to spend
more time writing a better schema, that would be OK, but I'd prefer that it
not hold up the process and that we have a bit more time to reality check
the result against more tools.  Meanwhile, having any schema that positions
the new vocabulary into the current vocabulary is enough to answer the last
call issue.

2) It seems the XForms 1.0 schema file I attached previous was co-mingled
with the early 'modularized' files in some email packages.  So this email
contains the baseline XForms 1.0 schema file as an attachment (in the
original message below), and there are no other attachments.

3) The attached file *is* the same one linked from the XForms 1.0 spec, so
the link to the attached file is here:
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/2002/XForms-Schema.xsd.

Thanks again,
John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
STSM: Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com

Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer


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Also, frankly I think it would be OK if you guys decided that the
modularized schema stuff was just too complicated to work with right now.

Instead, if you want to work from the XForms 1.0 schema, that might be
quite a bit better (e.g. it has the version list definition needed for the
model already).

Given that the modularized version has *not* been carried through to
completion, I think it is better to have a 1.1 schema quickly and
modularize later than to continue to have a thing called XForms 1.1 schema
but which is not at all reflective of XForms 1.1, no matter how much more
modularized its 1.0 description is.  Again, we can modularize later if
anyone decides to take the time to do that.

In case you guys decide to go this route, here is the file for you to work
with:



If it were me, this is the one I'd go with, for the reasons above.

Thanks again,,
John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
STSM: Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com

Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer
(See attached file: XForms-Schema.xsd)


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