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REVISED AGENDA: 12-14 SEPT 2007 FACE TO FACE MEETING

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:26:38 -0700
To: Forms WG (new) <public-forms@w3.org>
Message-ID: <OF6AFE4A65.D5A19953-ON88257355.00121A5D-88257355.0012FE35@ca.ibm.com>
We made excellent progress Wednesday, as recorded below.
Although we did not cover all the items for Wednesday on the earlier 
agenda, I did know it was an aggressive schedule.  It seemed best to try 
it and see how far we got.

Here is a revised schedule that moves the remaining work into Thursday and 
Friday.
As well, a number of the issues have been reordered, and more time has 
been allocated for a number of them.

I moved the break times so that we will be more likely to take them. I 
also extended our lunch period to 1.5 hours to reflect reality.  On 
Thursday, I extended our workday to 1830 to accommodate.  The Friday 
end-time remains 1800, but we do need to make it through the Thursday 
agenda even if we have to go a bit longer, as we did on Wednesday.

We made it through 23 of the remaining 48 LC comments yesterday, which is 
excellent progress.  Some of the remaining issues are a bit harder, but I 
allocated more time to them using some extra time taken from Friday, so I 
am confident we can finish the 1.1 last call comments at this face to 
face.

The schedule for Friday now contains only one smaller work period. 
Nevertheless, it contains enough time for us to have some decent progress 
and likely complete most or all of the listed tasks.  Based on our 
available resources and expertise, I made assignments of people to the 
tasks.

Finally, I extended the time of the SMIL review from 45 min to 1 hour, and 
I moved it to an earlier slot.

See all of you in a few hours.

Cheers,
John

Wednesday, Sept. 12 (done)
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0930-1845
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Startup and Agenda Review
Discuss plan for XForms 1.1 Schema
XML conference plan
Update group page with future FtF meetings plan

Need to define meaning of focus event on container form controls
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=155;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Repeat Index Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=24;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Treatment of Event Handlers inside Repeated Content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=153;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Remaining CDF issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=124;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=125;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=126;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Responses: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0080.html, 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0081.html

Diffs 1.0 to 1.1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=162;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc issue (root elem around xforms)
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=171;user=guest;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Need plan for submission examples
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=163;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission: Problem of requiring order of submission children
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=4;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Problems with dateTimeDuration and yearMonthDuration
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=137;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=7;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

No action item for this; unclear how to proceed
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?user=guest;selectid=6;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Let required and other MIPs affect UI control rendition
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=102;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with accessing XForms from Scripts
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=33;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=156;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Interaction with XPath 2.0
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=140;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=141;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=143;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=144;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=149;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

XPath function issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=145;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=146;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


Thursday, Sept. 13
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0930-1000
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XPath function issues (completion)
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=147;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

1000-1100
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Issues with date-time functions
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=12;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=11;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=63;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=69;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=65;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

1100-1130
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Revisit issue of lexical space versus value space versus display 
representation
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?user=guest;selectid=6;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Also affected is our reply to this:
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=10;user=guest;statetype=3;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
(the pattern for email *is* applied to the lexical space)

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1130-1145 Break
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1145-1230
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Model I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=8;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=13;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

1230-1300
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Misc I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=9;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Human Readable Resource Identifiers
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=38;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

1300-1330
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Nillable complex type with simple content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=92;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

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1330-1500 Lunch
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1500-1530
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DEMONSTRATIONS

1530-1615
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Issues with datatype validation
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=85;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=86;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=87;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

1615-1645
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Issues with sending value changed and MIP events
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=29;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=50;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

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1645-1700 Break
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1700-1730
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Are readonly and other MIPs properties or enforced rules?
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=176;user=guest;selectid=176;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

1730-1800
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Problems with binding expressions changing the evaluation context of other 
attributes
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=28;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

1800-1830
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Detecting more than just syntax errors in XPath
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=139;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with the use of xforms-binding-exception and 
xforms-compute-exception
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=36;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


Friday, Sept. 14
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0930-1030
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xforms:select and blank values
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=90;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Other XForms select issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=88;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=89;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

1030-1045
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Do we get rid of my action item to constrain revalidation?

1045-1130
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Things wrong with 7.5
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=142;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=41;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

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1130-1145 Break
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1145-1330
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Different teams will work on the following:
1) XForms 1.1 schema update (Charlie, Nick)
2) Submission examples (Steven)
3) Insert/delete examples (Erik, Uli and MarkB)
4) Numerous fixes to spec from past 2.5 days (John and Steven)

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1330-1500 Lunch
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1500-1600
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SMIL 3.0 Review
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-SMIL3-20070713/
Please be sure to read at least Section 15 on state 
(http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-SMIL3-20070713/smil-state.html)

1600-1645
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Discuss plan for XForms 1.1 LC issues that are approved but not done
Discuss outstanding actions for XForms 1.1 LC
Discuss XForms 1.1 CR schedule, implementation plans, test plans

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1645-1700 Break
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1700-1800
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Telecon chair for Sept. 19
Future Meetings (the value of face to faces)
Discuss editors and basic plan for 1.2 and 2.0
Any other wrap-up items
Received on Thursday, 13 September 2007 03:27:30 UTC

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