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New spec-ready text for select/select1 with value and copy

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:46:07 -0700
To: Forms WG (new) <public-forms@w3.org>
Cc: ebruchez@orbeon.com
Message-ID: <OFF870DC99.83210765-ON88257385.002E3E80-88257385.003048E6@ca.ibm.com>
The editor's draft now contains changes for issues 88 to 90 regarding 
behavioral problems with value and copy [1,2].
[1] 
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#ui-selectMany
[2] 
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#ui-selectOne

For the record, Erik's earlier text was really good and was used as a 
guide. However, we needed it to be applicable to copy as well as value. 
Also, when I got back into the spec, I found that the prior text had a 
good idea of trying to say what would be true about the control separately 
from when it would be enforced.  I also found that the existing text 
contained some statements that I wanted to retain without diff marks 
because they were contentious in the past.  For these reasons, I had to be 
more surgical about the application of the ideas to the spec.

The separate text indicating when truth would be enforced was indeed 
missing, so it was added, but it was unnecessary to drop into bullet 
points because the "general truth" versions of  "For closed selections" 
and "For open selections" already contained material commensurate with the 
bullet points.  I also found it necessary to put diffs into binding 
restrictions and implementation requirements, mainly to account for copy 
at the same time as value.  Lastly, the comment about disallowing empty 
and whitespace only values was added, but not as a note so there is no 
confusion about whether it is normative.

I believe that the new text synch's up very nicely with what Erik wanted 
out of his last call comments (as indicated by his prior version of a text 
solution), and that it also does provide consistency between value and 
copy handling, so the diffs are worth your time reviewing.

Please comment if you see anything needing improvement in [1,2].

Thank you,
John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
STSM: Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com 

Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer
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