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Re: 15 Insert/Delete Examples updated in Editor's draft

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:36:38 -0700
To: Nick_Van_den_Bleeken@inventivegroup.com
Cc: Forms WG (new) <public-forms@w3.org>, public-forms-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF6E3AA126.A34D42B1-ON88257389.001E97DE-88257389.001EF9CF@ca.ibm.com>
Hi Nick,

In the interest of expedience, I addressed this point by simply removing 
the alternate versions.

The alternate versions weren't really alternates, as you said, but were 
attempts to show why one would *not* want to do these operations without 
using the context attribute.  In a "Tips, tricks and traps" book, these 
would be called "traps".  Without the alternate versions, the text still 
has an explanatory note stating why context was used, and that does appear 
to be sufficient.

Cheers,
John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
STSM: Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com 

Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer





Nick_Van_den_Bleeken@inventivegroup.com 
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Re: 15 Insert/Delete Examples updated in Editor's draft







John & all,

The examples are really good, but I personally think that the 'Alternate 
Version of Operation' is going to confuse people who quickly read through 
the spec, if the alternative is not really an 'alternative version' in 
some border cases (e.g.: if the parent has no children, when the operation 

is executed).  I know that this is pointed out in the beginning of every 
example, but I think it will be a bit more clear if we move the part 'The 
alternate version of the operation ...' of the note to a separate note 
after the alternative version.

Regards,

Nick Van den Bleeken  -  Research & Development
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John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com> 
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10/12/2007 05:09 PM

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15 Insert/Delete Examples updated in Editor's draft







The XForms 1.1 draft available from our home page now contains 15 example 
patterns for insert and delete actions. 

Please review 
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#insert-delete-patterns 



Thanks, 
John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
STSM: Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com 

Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer




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