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RE: Last draft of F2F minutes for Hawthorne

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:02:19 -0700
To: "Klotz, Leigh" <Leigh.Klotz@xerox.com>
Cc: public-forms@w3.org, public-forms-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OFB03E70E8.C9D544E8-ON882572FF.007854A7-882572FF.00790FBF@ca.ibm.com>
Hi Leigh,

Great minutes as always.

On 13 June, the following sentence attributed to me is not correct:

The node gets on the change list for recalculate dependencies but it 
doesn't get recalculated.

It should say

The node gets on the change list for recalculate dependencies and so it 
gets recalculated.


Also, the following paragraph attributed to me is incomplete:

We may have to change words to make it clearer: the other part of the spec 
says what happens; this part of the spec is subject to 4.3.6. We have to 
change this to make it do what 4.3.6 says.

It should say 

We may have to change words to make it clearer: the other part of the spec 
says what happens; this part of the spec is subject to 4.3.6. If there is 
a problem, then we would have to change the appendix to make it do what 
4.3.6 says, but I thought it was pretty clear because I use the term 
'reachable'.  It's a graph algorithm term so I didn't define it further, 
but a node is always reachable from itself without needing to traverse an 
edge of the graph.  Another related term is 'transitive closure' in which 
a given set of nodes is used to indicate a larger graph consisting of all 
nodes reachable from the initiating set.  The initiating set is included 
because you want to find the largest connected subgraph containing the 
initiating set of nodes. 

[I believe I mumbled a few other attempts at explaining that a node can 
reach itself degenerately, but the fact is so obvious to me that I didn't 
come up with wording better than the above.]

In any case, I recall Mark saying OK after I said we could make a change 
if needed BUT that a node is reachable from itself so the initial vertices 
are recalculated.

Cheers,
John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
STSM: Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com 

Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer





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RE: Last draft of F2F minutes for Hawthorne







Note that the links to previous minutes are broken in these minutes, so
there needs to be at least one more round.
Also we should remove the word "draft."
I'm on vacation after this week so it would be good if we could approve
the minutes tomorrow so I can make a final version. 

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:02 PM
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Subject: Last draft of F2F minutes for Hawthorne

Please read these complete minutes and respond with corrections.
Received on Tuesday, 19 June 2007 22:03:08 UTC

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