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TELECON AGENDA - 22 AUG 2007

From: Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:45:31 +0200
To: public-forms@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.txgll5a9smjzpq@acer3010.lan>

(Whoops! Nearly forgot I had agreed to send the agenda. Sorry for its  
lateness)

Regrets: Erik, John, Uli

Previous minutes:
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/att-0048/20070815
IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-minutes

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
Erik, Susan, Joern, Dave, Ulrich, Blake, Nick, Kenneth,
Rogelio, David, Rafael, MarkB, Keith, Charlie, MarkS,
Raman, Lars, Sebastian

AGENDA ITEMS:
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REPORTS (* as needed)
=====================

Coming calls
Summer Questionnaire: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32219/xformssummer07/

* Next FtF - Hosted by SATEC September 12 to 14, 2007
Attendance Questionnaire: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34637/ftfsept2007/

XForms 1.0 Third Edition
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/PER-xforms-20070725/

* XForms 1.1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0055
To add an issue from www-forms-editor, *forward* to  
xforms-issues@mn.aptest.com
To search last call issues and add bugs, see  
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/
For last call issues admin, use http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/xforms-issues/  
(after getting an account)
For problems with issue tracker, contact shane@aptest.com

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1

Backplane
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0165.html

XForms Conference at XML Conference
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0055.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0036.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0024.html

Easy XForms apps that could be made public

XForms 1.2/Transitional
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0022.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0173.html

* Forms Joint Task Force with HTML WG
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0070.html

Latest Action Item List:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0017.html

Action item rotation list (when no volunteers):
Dave, Erik, Keith, Joern, John, Kenneth, Lars, Leigh, MarkB,
MarkS, Nick, Rafael, Raman, Rogelio, Sebastian, Steven,
Susan, Ulrich, Blake, Charlie


ISSUES for XForms 1.0 and 1.1
=============================

inputmode modifier tokens
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Aug/0007

The context attr should apply even if @bind used
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0001.html

Keep or abandon idea of putting context in common attributes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0006.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0007.html

Problem with definition of readonly (1.0 and 1.1)
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=176;user=guest;selectid=176;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0000.html
Discussed here, but no resolution:
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/att-0048/20070815.html#topic7

Last Call Issues Needing Approval of Proposed Resolution:
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Group 2: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0052.html
Response:  
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0080.html,
           http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0074.html
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=70;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=71;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Group 3: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0052.html
Response:  
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0080.html,
           http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0081.html
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=124;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=125;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=126;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=162;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=171;user=guest;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=175;user=guest;selectid=175;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


Last Call Issues Open and Ready for Consideration:
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Issues with functions
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=12;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=11;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=63;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=69;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=65;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


Let required and other MIPs affect UI control rendition
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=102;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with sending value changed and MIP events
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=29;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=50;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with the use of xforms-binding-exception and  
xforms-compute-exception
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=36;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Need to define meaning of focus event on container form controls
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=155;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Nillable complex type with simple content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=92;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Problems with dateTimeDuration and yearMonthDuration
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=7;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=137;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with datatype validation
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=85;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=86;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=87;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Problems with binding expressions changing the evaluation context of other  
attributes
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=28;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Model I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=8;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=13;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

XForms select issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=88;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=89;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=90;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=145;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=146;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=147;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=177;user=guest;selectid=177;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Interaction with XPath 2.0
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=140;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=141;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=143;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=144;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=149;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with accessing XForms from Scripts
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=33;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=156;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Things wrong with 7.5
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=41;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=142;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

More possible errors for XPaths
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=139;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Repeat Index Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=24;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Treatment of Event Handlers inside Repeated Content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=153;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=9;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Human Readable Resource Identifiers
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=38;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc Editorial
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=53;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission Editorial
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=46;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission: Problem of requiring order of submission children
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=4;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission: More examples desired
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=163;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


Other Issues
------------

Problems with test suite.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0010
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0011
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0012
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0013
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0015
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0016

Requirement to support dynamic dependencies in UI bindings
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0030.html

Issues with 7.5
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0010.html

Instance replacement fix needed
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0081.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0065.html

Non-selected case and non-relevant group
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0051.html

Events on startup; events for other UI creation scenarios
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0088.html

Remarks about xf:insert in XForms 1.1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0005.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0008.html
* Resolved May 16 for John or Erik to deal with, but no action item

Issues with deleting the context node
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Feb/0027.html
This was discussed April 4  
(http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-xforms-minutes.html#item08),
but minutes record no resolution or action.

Issues that have resurfaced but are technically out of scope
------------------------------------------------------------
Discuss 'Better definition of Form Control'

Issues with select1
1) Does a select1 visually multiselect?
2) Handling of simultaneous matching a copy item and an empty value item


ISSUES not yet categorized by version
=====================================


ISSUES for XForms 1.2, 2.0 and Beyond
=====================================

The meaning of 'form control' needs to be more rigorously defined.   
Sometimes
it includes one, some or all of repeat, group and switch.

Tighten definition of form control to fix numerous problems,
including problem of targeting help/hint at item elements
(declared and generated by nodeset)


Problem with incremental attribute setting for selection="open"  
select1/select controls
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0098.html

The meaning of message
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html

The repeat-* attributes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html

Meaning of repeated content
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/0212.html

We should allow the result of calculate to
be cast according to the assigned datatype,
e.g. no need to call boolean-from-string() if
calculate assigns to a boolean node.

Single-Node Binding and UICommon* on case element
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0092.html

Better align case with group and switch with select1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0115.html

Repeat and page view
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Aug/0090.html

Extended Actions
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/0073

multiple schemas targeting same namespace (unresolved when discussed at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/att-0109/20060726.html#topic15)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JanMar/0348
   http://www.oxygenxml.com/archives/xml-dev/200209/msg00091.html
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2002Aug/0102.html
COMMENT: The spec restricts a model to one schema per namespace

Put @mediatype on textarea

Parallel trees
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Apr/0002.html

Need to distinguish types of bindings
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0099.html

See Future Featuers.


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