Re: Federation protocols

Dnia sobota, 1 czerwca 2013 o 21:35:23 Nick Jennings napisał(a):
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak 
<rysiek@fwioo.pl>wrote:
> > > > > This could be things like federated media sharing or quick ways to
> > 
> > add
> > 
> > > > > a social layer to their mobile app or game.
> > > > 
> > > > Great. Let's promote a single, well-defined protocol and this will be
> > > > possible.
> > > 
> > > Where do existing protocols like pump and buddycloud fail? What would
> > > the single unified protocol do differently?
> > 
> > Network effect:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
> > 
> > Usefulness of a social network grows exponentially with the number of
> > users.
> > If BuddyCloud, Pump.io, Diaspora and Friendica could all seamlessly
> > interop,
> > the "power" of such a network would be several orders of magnitude larger
> > than
> > the simple sum of all parts.
> 
> I think it's been touched on, but maybe we need to be more specific here.
> What would these sites federating look like, specifically? If you could
> dream it up. Are we talking a "kitchen sink" of a social network? It's
> twitter and facebook and chat and google+ all combined into one monolithic
> feed that can be interpreted by any of these sites?

Correct me if I am wrong, but all of these have a similar datastructure of 
entries and of user profile data. Content, author, date, optional title, 
optional tags.

Why are you putting "chat" into this? Chat is more real-time, instant 
communication. It does not make sense here.

I can dream it up, it's quite easy. I would like to be able to have an account 
on any of these and be able to communicate (poke, friend, comment, etc) with 
any other account on any of them. Just like I can across Friendica and 
Diaspora to a large extent.

I don't see any concrete reason why this should not be possible.

Calling that a "monolithic feed", "kitchen sink" is disingenuous. It would be 
interoperable, yes -- that's the whole point. But "monolithic" is not the 
right word, just as "kitchen sink" is not at all appropriate, as each user 
would create their own environment by "friending"/"following" people and 
putting them into "aspects".

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Pozdrawiam
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak

Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania