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Re: On the performances of decimal and float encoding conversion

From: Antoine Mensch <antoine.mensch@odonata.fr>
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:49:36 +0100
Message-ID: <4AEF53F0.3040700@odonata.fr>
To: "Cokus, Michael S." <msc@mitre.org>
CC: "public-exi-comments@w3.org" <public-exi-comments@w3.org>
Hello Mike,

To answer your question, yes, the recent post by John Schneider 
clarifies the rationale for the current choices of default floating 
point and decimal number representation in the spec. I think only time 
will tell whether use cases where numbers must be converted to and from 
their string representation are more or less important than use cases 
using binary representation. So for the time being I am happy with this 
aspect of the spec, as long as the Data Type Representation Map allows 
us to use an alternative representation when needed.

Cheers

Antoine Mensch

Cokus, Michael S. a écrit :
> Hello Antoine,
>
> Please see our comments, below...
>
>   
>> We have some concerns about the relative compression and
>> encoding/decoding performances of EXI and "standard" binary
>> representations for decimal and floating point numbers. While the
>> formats currently proposed in EXI seem optimal for compression and
>> well-adapted when converting from EXI to string (or decimal)
>> representations and back, there is a significant performance penalty
>> when converting from EXI to "standard" binary representations used in
>> the C language:
>>
>> - In cases where large integers are represented as an array of native
>> ints, the proposed EXI integer representation is easily converted to the
>> internal representation. However, when using decimals (with a native
>> representation adding a scale factor), the EXI representation must first
>> be converted to the decimal representation to reverse the digits before
>> being converted to the internal representation. This intermediate
>> conversion is expensive.
>> - For floating point number, the proposed EXI format must always be
>> converted to its decimal representation before being converted to its
>> native (often IEEE 754) representation.
>>     
>
> There has been a recent posting to the public comments list concerning the performance of EXI and IEEE floating point representations (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-exi-comments/2009Oct/0000.html).  We believe this post addresses your comments above, but we wanted to make sure.  Please let us know whether there should be more discussion within this email thread concerning this.
>
>   
>> So we join our voice to the existing concerns regarding the EXI
>> representation of decimal and floating point numbers. We would prefer to
>> at least have an option to support decimals using a scale factor and
>> IEEE 754 float representation.
>>     
>
> The current spec does provide an option for supporting the IEEE floating point
> representation of float numbers as well as the scaled value representation
> of decimal numbers. These would be handled using the Datatype Representation
> Map feature.
>
>   
>> Best regards
>>
>> Antoine Mensch
>>     
>
> Thanks much,
>
> --mike
>
>
> Mike Cokus
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