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Re: Promotion of XHTML

From: John Colby <John.colby@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:26:32 +0000
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At 17:17 30/12/2002 -0500, Brant Langer Gurganus wrote:

>John Colby wrote:
>>At 11:18 30/12/2002 -0500, Brant wrote:
>>>Nigel Peck - MIS Web Design wrote:
>>>>It's great how XHTML is progressing with version 2 etc. but it strikes me
>>>>that while the W3C is taking the specs into the future the majority of the
>>>>Web Development world is lagging miles behind.
>>>>For example, a college near to me teaches Web Design. They teach HTML not
>>>>XHTML. People come out of there happily writing <br> tags and not closing
>>>>their <p> tags and some will go on to create Web sites.
>>>>For my part I've started a series of articles aimed at teaching XHTML to
>>>>beginners, if anyone is interested it's at:
>>>By the time the textbook is printed, it is probably out-of-date and if 
>>>adopted, it takes about five years before new text books are adopted.
>>>In the worst cases, Web design education is at least six years behind 
>>>the Web specifications.  That is why you still see people writing 
>>>presentationally using invalid HTML 3.2 through a Web editor.  Such is 
>>>the case with my school.  Despite all my efforts, they fail to realize 
>>>that HTML is a markup language that adds meaning, not fancy colors.
>>I'd appreciate anyone's views on this and your opinion of this type of 
>>approach, both for learning style and toolsets, bearing in mind that this 
>>is classroom teaching by lecture and workshop (it may expand later into 
>>print and web media) and is intended to be part of a degree course.
>Sounds good.  Only problem with Top Style is that it is not monetarily 
>free, but it is definitely good.  I do most of my development personally 
>with either jEdit or Amaya.  jEdit is also in Java so it is cross-platform.
I'll try jEdit - and of course you're right about the advantages of Amaya - 
but TopStyle does give an educational discount. And better, the authors can 
make in un-nickable

Still - thanks for the views - more homework for me.



John Colby

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