RE: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

No progress on the W3C wiki so I started some local experiments.
See https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/wiki/Siss/VocabularyService3

These could probably be merged.
Comments welcome.

From: Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company) [mailto:a.blumauer@semantic-web.at]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2011 5:45 PM
To: Christophe Dupriez
Cc: Cox, Simon (CESRE, Kensington); holger@topquadrant.com; public-esw-thes@w3.org
Subject: Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

Hi Christophe,

thank you for this first step,
we should also consider to make references to
http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-http-rdf-update/


maybe also ask the people who work on this if they
would like to participate in our specific SKOS related initiative.

Anyone else (who provides SKOS tools) interested?

Regards,
Andreas
________________________________
Von: "Christophe Dupriez" <christophe.dupriez@destin.be>
An: "Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company)" <a.blumauer@semantic-web.at>
CC: "Simon Cox" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>, holger@topquadrant.com, public-esw-thes@w3.org
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2011 23:49:00
Betreff: Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

Hi Andreas,

For you and all people interested, I created the following page in the SKOS wiki:
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS_Repository_REST_http_API

No specs for the moment but I will base my contribution on the model of the DSpace REST API:
https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/REST+API


Have a nice evening!

Christophe


Le 27/06/2011 14:06, Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company) a écrit :
Hi Christophe,

this is great, and I agree that we should stick to SKOS terminology.

Regards,
Andreas
________________________________
Von: "Christophe Dupriez" <christophe.dupriez@destin.be><mailto:christophe.dupriez@destin.be>
An: "Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company)" <a.blumauer@semantic-web.at><mailto:a.blumauer@semantic-web.at>
CC: "Simon Cox" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au><mailto:Simon.Cox@csiro.au>, holger@topquadrant.com<mailto:holger@topquadrant.com>, public-esw-thes@w3.org<mailto:public-esw-thes@w3.org>
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2011 10:43:41
Betreff: Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

Hi Andreas,

I am definitively willing to implement this kind of "shortcuts" in
ASKOSI.org

We must then also standardize the structured result formats
     (RDF, JSON : SparQL results? Which columns are included in the result?)
... and respect REST API principles ...

I would also prefer to avoid "all" and stick to SKOS terminology:
http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131/narrower


Have a nice day!

Christophe


Le 27/06/2011 10:19, Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company) a écrit :
> Same with PoolParty Thesaurus Management [1]:
> We provide "stored procedures" and can offer a variety of pre-defined SPARQL queries,
> which can execute queries mentioned by Simon.
>
> But this is not enough: If developers could execute at any SPARQL endpoint, e.g. [2]
> queries like
>
> http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/PoolParty/sparql/semweb/allConceptSchemes
>
> or for any given concept, e.g. [3]
>
> queries like
>
> http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131/allNarrowers

> http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131/allRelateds/prefLabel="foo"
>
> in a STANDARDIZED way, then developers don´t have to care about anymore
> if the underlying technology is PoolParty, TopBraid or something else AND
> they don´t have to learn Sparql but rather could concentrate on a vocabulary´s inherent scheme&  logic,
>
> and exactly this is necessary to get things going also for non-SemWebber in my opinion.
>
> If anyone is interested in defining such queries, please let me know!
>
> Cheers,
> Andreas
>
> [1] http://poolparty.punkt.at/

> [2] http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/PoolParty/sparql/semweb

> [3] http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131

>
>
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
>
>> Von: "Simon Cox"<Simon.Cox@csiro.au><mailto:Simon.Cox@csiro.au>
>> An: holger@topquadrant.com<mailto:holger@topquadrant.com>, public-esw-thes@w3.org<mailto:public-esw-thes@w3.org>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2011 04:49:38
>> Betreff: RE: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"
>> E.g.
>> 1. Get concept (all triples with concept as subject or object -
>> DESCRIBE) with prefLabel = “foo”
>> 2. Get concept with prefLabel in Fonglish = “foo”
>> 3. Get concept http://example.org/bar and all narrower concepts
>> 4. Get concept http://example.org/bar and all broader concepts
>> 5. Get concept with prefLabel in Fonglish = “foo” and all narrower
>> concepts
>> 6. Etc ...
>> i.e. pre-rolled queries which use the SKOS properties.
>> Reusable SPARQL queries might be part of a solution.
>> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org<mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org>
>> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Holger
>> Knublauch
>> Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 9:11 AM
>> To: public-esw-thes@w3.org<mailto:public-esw-thes@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"
>> What aspects of SPARQL would such a standard layer include? We and
>> our customers are heavily using SPARQL in the context of SKOS, and
>> we have published a SPARQL-based constraint checking library [1]
>> using the W3C Member Submission SPIN [2]. This will validate the
>> various SKOS-specific integrity constraints and has been integrated
>> with TopQuadrant's Enterprise Vocabulary Net (EVN) solution [3].
>> SPIN also makes it easy to encapsulate reusable SPARQL queries into
>> so-called templates. These templates are basically parameterized
>> queries that have a URI and arguments. Compare to stored procedures
>> in SQL. It would be straight-forward to build and publish such a
>> template library for SKOS, if someone here has a list of queries
>> that they like to ask repeatedly.
>> Cheers,
>> Holger
>> [1] http://topbraid.org/spin/skosspin

>> [2] http://spinrdf.org/

>> [3] http://www.topquadrant.com/solutions/ent_vocab_net.html

>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:34 AM,<  Simon.Cox@csiro.au<mailto:Simon.Cox@csiro.au>>  wrote:
>> “ a "standard" layer encapsulating Sparql especially designed for
>> SKOS based systems
>> might help in this situation. ”
>> +1
>> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org<mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org>
>> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Andreas
>> Blumauer (Semantic Web Company)
>> Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 4:36 PM
>> To: public-esw-thes@w3.org<mailto:public-esw-thes@w3.org>
>> Subject: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"
>> Hello all,
>> we are happy to announce that the results of the survey titled
>> "Do controlled vocabularies matter?" are available now.
>> A short write-up and also the link to the report can be found here:
>> http://blog.semantic-web.at/2011/06/26/thesaurus-based-search-engines-will-become-main-stream-in-the-near-future/

>> The report itself was published on issuu:
>> http://issuu.com/andreas_blumauer/docs/survey_do_controlled_vocabularies_matter_2011_june

>> We would be happy to receive comments from the community on this.
>> As an interesting outcome it can be stated, that people working on
>> controlled vocabularies
>> seem to have put aside scepticism about the semantic web finally.
>> On the other side the whole semantic web cake has not been digested
>> yet:
>> E.g. only a few people from the vocab-community deal with Sparql,
>> which brings me to the conclusion
>> that a "standard" layer encapsulating Sparql especially designed for
>> SKOS based systems
>> might help in this situation.
>> Any activities going on in this area?
>> Best wishes,
>> Andreas
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