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Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

From: Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company) <a.blumauer@semantic-web.at>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:19:08 +0200 (CEST)
To: Simon Cox <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>
Cc: holger@topquadrant.com, public-esw-thes@w3.org
Message-ID: <5a0bdab1-2d9d-413a-a684-5a620837b0a8@zcs>
Same with PoolParty Thesaurus Management [1]: 
We provide "stored procedures" and can offer a variety of pre-defined SPARQL queries, 
which can execute queries mentioned by Simon. 

But this is not enough: If developers could execute at any SPARQL endpoint, e.g. [2] 
queries like 

http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/PoolParty/sparql/semweb/allConceptSchemes 

or for any given concept, e.g. [3] 

queries like 

http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131/allNarrowers 
http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131/allRelateds/prefLabel="foo"

in a STANDARDIZED way, then developers don´t have to care about anymore 
if the underlying technology is PoolParty, TopBraid or something else AND
they don´t have to learn Sparql but rather could concentrate on a vocabulary´s inherent scheme & logic,

and exactly this is necessary to get things going also for non-SemWebber in my opinion. 

If anyone is interested in defining such queries, please let me know! 

Cheers, 
Andreas 

[1] http://poolparty.punkt.at/ 
[2] http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/PoolParty/sparql/semweb 
[3] http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131 


----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- 

> Von: "Simon Cox" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>
> An: holger@topquadrant.com, public-esw-thes@w3.org
> Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2011 04:49:38
> Betreff: RE: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

> E.g.
> 1. Get concept (all triples with concept as subject or object -
> DESCRIBE) with prefLabel = “foo”
> 2. Get concept with prefLabel in Fonglish = “foo”
> 3. Get concept http://example.org/bar and all narrower concepts
> 4. Get concept http://example.org/bar and all broader concepts
> 5. Get concept with prefLabel in Fonglish = “foo” and all narrower
> concepts
> 6. Etc ...
> i.e. pre-rolled queries which use the SKOS properties.

> Reusable SPARQL queries might be part of a solution.

> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Holger
> Knublauch
> Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 9:11 AM
> To: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

> What aspects of SPARQL would such a standard layer include? We and
> our customers are heavily using SPARQL in the context of SKOS, and
> we have published a SPARQL-based constraint checking library [1]
> using the W3C Member Submission SPIN [2]. This will validate the
> various SKOS-specific integrity constraints and has been integrated
> with TopQuadrant's Enterprise Vocabulary Net (EVN) solution [3].

> SPIN also makes it easy to encapsulate reusable SPARQL queries into
> so-called templates. These templates are basically parameterized
> queries that have a URI and arguments. Compare to stored procedures
> in SQL. It would be straight-forward to build and publish such a
> template library for SKOS, if someone here has a list of queries
> that they like to ask repeatedly.

> Cheers,

> Holger

> [1] http://topbraid.org/spin/skosspin

> [2] http://spinrdf.org/

> [3] http://www.topquadrant.com/solutions/ent_vocab_net.html

> On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:34 AM, < Simon.Cox@csiro.au > wrote:

> “ a "standard" layer encapsulating Sparql especially designed for
> SKOS based systems
> might help in this situation. ”

> +1

> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Andreas
> Blumauer (Semantic Web Company)
> Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 4:36 PM
> To: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> Subject: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

> Hello all,

> we are happy to announce that the results of the survey titled
> "Do controlled vocabularies matter?" are available now.

> A short write-up and also the link to the report can be found here:
> http://blog.semantic-web.at/2011/06/26/thesaurus-based-search-engines-will-become-main-stream-in-the-near-future/

> The report itself was published on issuu:
> http://issuu.com/andreas_blumauer/docs/survey_do_controlled_vocabularies_matter_2011_june

> We would be happy to receive comments from the community on this.

> As an interesting outcome it can be stated, that people working on
> controlled vocabularies
> seem to have put aside scepticism about the semantic web finally.

> On the other side the whole semantic web cake has not been digested
> yet:
> E.g. only a few people from the vocab-community deal with Sparql,
> which brings me to the conclusion
> that a "standard" layer encapsulating Sparql especially designed for
> SKOS based systems
> might help in this situation.

> Any activities going on in this area?

> Best wishes,
> Andreas

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