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Re: Status of resources (stable, testing etc)

From: Alistair Miles <alimanfoo@googlemail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:24:02 +0100
To: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
Cc: Alistair Miles <alimanfoo@googlemail.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, Marc Wick <marc@geonames.org>, Dublin Core <DC-ARCHITECTURE@jiscmail.ac.uk>, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@talis.com>, Libby Miller <Libby.Miller@bbc.co.uk>, Lise Rozat <lise.rozat@mondeca.com>
Message-ID: <20100504092402.GA3507@skiathos>
Hi Bernard

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 03:08:01PM +0200, Bernard Vatant wrote:
> Hello Alistair
> 
> Thanks for the finding. Looks indeed very close to what we need, indeed, and
> we have URIs for the status values.
> Looking a closer there is a bit of namespace hijacking / wishful thinking -
> not to mention the weird xml:lang attribute on the skos:Concept element
> itself :(
> 
>     <skos:Concept rdf:about="http://metadataregistry.org/uri/RegStatus/1003"
> xml:lang="en">
>         <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="
> http://metadataregistry.org/uri/RegStatus"/>
>         <*skos:status* rdf:resource="
> http://metadataregistry.org/uri/RegStatus/1001"/>
>         <skos:prefLabel xml:lang="en">Change-Proposed</skos:prefLabel>
>     </skos:Concept>
> 
> *skos:status* ??? I don't think it has ever been there even in the spec
> drafts, or maybe remotely in the corner of some discussions. Alistair,
> remember such a thing?

Hm, no I don't think so. I've only ever used Dan & Libby's status
vocab. I did once jot a few related thoughts down at
http://esw.w3.org/ConfigurationManagement but didn't use the SKOS
namespace.

Incidentally, searching the SKOS UCR doc for "status" pointed me to
the BIRNlex use case, http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-ucr/#UC-BirnLex - see
birn_annot:curationStatus. It might be worth following that up.

Also I know the folks responsible for IVOA.net have done lots on
vocabulary management, see
e.g. http://www.ivoa.net/Documents/latest/Vocabularies.html - maybe
worth getting in touch.

> ... but if someday soon we have, courtesy of DCMI diligence, a
> dcterms:status property it would fit neatly in the slot.

Sounds reasonable.

Cheers,

Alistair

> 
> Bernard
> 
> 
> 2010/4/29 Alistair Miles <alimanfoo@googlemail.com>
> 
> > FWIW, I know jon phipps created a status vocabulary which is used
> > internally in metadataregistry.org, see:
> >
> > http://metadataregistry.org/concept/list/vocabulary_id/31.html
> >
> > Maybe not what you're after, but I thought I'd make the connection.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Alistair
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 08:47:45PM +0200, Dan Brickley wrote:
> > > +cc: Leigh, Libby
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Bernard Vatant
> > > <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello folks
> > > >
> > > > We are currently revisiting the Geonames ontology (long overdue)
> > including
> > > > feature codes, on which I would like to add some Dublin-Core like
> > > > annotations re. concepts. In particular some concepts are going to be
> > > > deprecated using dcterms:isReplacedBy, some will be deprecated
> > altogether
> > > > without replace because they've never be used, and quite a lot will be
> > put
> > > > in a status of quasi-obsolescence or quasi-extinction. Those are
> > feature
> > > > codes used less than one per million features, which means less than 7
> > times
> > > > considering Geonames has over 7 millions features in store ...
> > > > I was wondering which vocabulary is the best for expressing that.
> > > > http://www.w3.org/2003/06/sw-vocab-status/ns is used by FOAF,
> > Bibontology
> > > > and others. But it defines status as a data property, I would prefer an
> > > > object property with an enumerated range of individual values. Of
> > course I
> > > > can define those in geonames data space, but since this is not
> > particular to
> > > > geographical codes, I was wondering if there was some vocabulary on
> > some
> > > > shelves I miss. BTW I was amazed not to find any "status" property in
> > Dublin
> > > > Core.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, that is a limitation of the sw-vocab-status vocab. At the end of
> > last
> > > year I started writing it up towards a W3C Note (after a 'go for it' from
> > > Ivan), with Libby Miller and Leigh Dodds. The effort is a little stalled
> > but
> > > the draft is at http://www.w3.org/2003/06/sw-vocab-status/note.html
> > >
> > > If you think it's worthwhile, we could expand the note to include new
> > more
> > > useful properties.
> > >
> > > Interested to help? :)
> > >
> > > (even encouraging us to put time into this counts as help!)
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bernard Vatant
> > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > Vocabulary & Data Engineering
> > > > Tel:       +33 (0) 971 488 459
> > > > Mail:     bernard.vatant@mondeca.com
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> >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bernard Vatant
> Senior Consultant
> Vocabulary & Data Engineering
> Tel:       +33 (0) 971 488 459
> Mail:     bernard.vatant@mondeca.com
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Mondeca
> 3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France
> Web:    http://www.mondeca.com
> Blog:    http://mondeca.wordpress.com
> ----------------------------------------------------

-- 
Alistair Miles
Centre for Genomics and Global Health <http://cggh.org>
The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics
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Oxford
OX3 7BN
United Kingdom
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Email: alimanfoo@gmail.com
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