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From: Thomas Bandholtz <thomas.bandholtz@innoq.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:22:27 +0200
Message-ID: <4ADF6D83.4070604@innoq.com>
To: Stella Dextre Clarke <stella@lukehouse.org>
CC: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, L.Will@willpowerinfo.co.uk
Hi Stella,

remember Leonard Will's posting about "revising the ISO standard for
thesauri for information retrieval" from Feb this year?
with a huge diagram attached.
Would be curious what has happened since then.

Leonard, still on the line?

Something else regarding my previous post. I was too eager to go out for
dinner, so I made a misleading error in this turtle syntax example:
#not recommended (and not what I wanted to write)
:4711 rdf:type skos:Concept;
   skos:prefLabel "waste water";
   skos:prefLabel "waste waters";
   skos:prefLabel "wastewater";
   skos:prefLabel "wastewaters";
   skos:altLabel "sewage".

This is not what i wanted to say. Should read as:

#not recommended:
:4711 rdf:type skos:Concept;
   skos:prefLabel "waste water";
   skos:altLabel "waste waters";
   skos:altLabel "wastewater";
   skos:altLabel "wastewaters";
   skos:altLabel "sewage".

Too silly!  Excuse me for such a confusion, i was somehow ... hungry!
Damn copy&paste in a hurry!

Best regards,

> Thomas Bandholtz wrote:
>> Secondly, we need this stuff to support automated indexing of full
>> text documents. Machine need to be enabled to detect the Concepts
>> behind this weird mess of character strings that makes a document
>> (more on this in the ecoterm presentation).
> Another interesting point. I sometimes hear people complain that
> ISO2788-compliant thesauri do not help enough with retrieval from full
> text of documents that have not been humanly indexed. This is hardly
> surprising, since they were designed to support retrieval of documents
> indexed with that same vocabulary. The same is true of BS 8723-2 and
> the forthcoming ISO 25964-1.
> When people want to use a thesaurus for full text retrieval, I
> sometimes suggest they could improve the results by stripping the
> qualifiers off the non-preferred terms. But more could be done to
> enhance the results of that process, by including inflectional forms,
> term weighting, Boolean expressions, additional less reliable
> clue-words, etc, and of course dropping the idea of admitting the
> clue-words as non-preferred synonyms with  reciprocal relationships.
> I sometimes wonder if a future revised version of BS 8723 or ISO 25964
> should include some recommendations to this effect. What do you think?
> Stella
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