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Re: SKOS properties

From: Sue Ellen Wright <sellenwright@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 06:11:14 -0400
Message-ID: <e35499310704270311yc8d292bwf00f029ceb75838c@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Stella Dextre Clarke" <sdclarke@lukehouse.demon.co.uk>
Cc: "Quentin Reul" <qreul@csd.abdn.ac.uk>, "SWD Working Group" <public-swd-wg@w3.org>, public-esw-thes@w3.org
Sorry for all the typos -- I came to the computer in the dark looking for
another email and ended up sort of typing blind!
Bye for now
Sue Ellen


On 4/27/07, Stella Dextre Clarke <sdclarke@lukehouse.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  Sue Ellen,
> Yes, I can see that treating antonyms as synonyms would not suit a
> terminology application at all. And even for thesaurus applications, it only
> works for *some* antonyms in *some* contexts. (For example the black/white
> and war/peace cases that have been mentioned look most  unlikely
> candidates.) For a thesaurus manager, however, it is nice to be able to
> apply this treatment in selected cases. Can/should  SKOS try to meet all
> needs of all user groups?
> cheers
> Stella
>
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>   -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Sue Ellen Wright [mailto:sellenwright@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 26 April 2007 15:31
> *To:* Stella Dextre Clarke
> *Cc:* Quentin Reul; SWD Working Group; public-esw-thes@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: SKOS properties
>
> Hi, All,
> As a terminologist, the notion of adding antonyms as equivalents/synonyms
> strikes me as really undesirable. In an ontology-like environment it would
> really be problematic. By the same token, it is hard to classify antonym
> relations -- this has long been a subject of debate in
> terminology/lexicography circles. I rather like the idea of "disjointwith"
> together with a scope note. Especially in multilingual concept management,
> knowing the antonym is often a real clue to the disambiguation of the
> concept associated with a term.
> Bye for now
> Sue Ellen
>
>
> On 4/26/07, Stella Dextre Clarke <sdclarke@lukehouse.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >  You may like to know that ISO 2788 and BS 8723 both allow you to admit
> > antonyms as though they were equivalents (with relationship tagged USE/UF)
> > if appropriate. For example, in my own thesaurus I have an entry
> > "Inconsistency of indexing USE Indexing consistency" because both of these
> > terms are actually referring to the same underlying concept. (A scope note
> > might describe it  as "the degree of  consistency or
> > inconsistency encountered in indexing".) If you want to be more precise, you
> > could set it up as a special type of equivalence relationship.
> >
> > SKOS could choose to handle antonyms the same way, if it wishes. (*some*
> > antonyms, I should stress - not all examples would be suitable for this
> > treatment.) In an ontology, you might prefer the relationships to be more
> > specific.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Stella
> >
> > *****************************************************
> > Stella Dextre Clarke
> > Information Consultant
> > Luke House, West Hendred, Wantage, Oxon, OX12 8RR, UK
> > Tel: 01235-833-298
> > Fax: 01235-863-298
> > SDClarke@LukeHouse.demon.co.uk
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> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* public-esw-thes-request@w3.org [mailto:
> > public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Quentin Reul
> > *Sent:* 26 April 2007 12:08
> > *To:* SWD Working Group
> > *Cc:* public-esw-thes@w3.org
> > *Subject:* SKOS properties
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I was looking at the properties available as part of SKOS and realized
> > that there wasn't any properties to represent antonyms. However, these are
> > sometimes useful and present in some thesauri such as WordNet. Would
> > owl:disjointWith be sufficient to represent antonyms?
> > Thanks,
> > Quentin
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Quentin H. Reul
> > Computing Science
> > University of Aberdeen
> >
> > +44 (0)1224 27 *4485*
> > qreul@csd.abdn.ac.uk
> > http://www.csd.abdn.ac.uk/~qreul
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Sue Ellen Wright
> Institute for Applied Linguistics
> Kent State University
> Kent OH 44242 USA
> sellenwright@gmail.com
> swright@kent.edu
> sewright@neo.rr.com
>
>


-- 
Sue Ellen Wright
Institute for Applied Linguistics
Kent State University
Kent OH 44242 USA
sellenwright@gmail.com
swright@kent.edu
sewright@neo.rr.com
Received on Friday, 27 April 2007 10:11:40 GMT

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