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Re: Proposal for a SPEK vocabulary RE: Subjects and perspectives in SKOS : the jack of all trades ...

From: Leonard Will <L.Will@willpowerinfo.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:24:28 +0100
Message-ID: <FXQeyRGsgQWDFA3C@willpowerinfo.co.uk>
To: public-esw-thes@w3.org

In message <GOEIKOOAMJONEFCANOKCKEGIHBAA.bernard.vatant@mondeca.com> on
Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com> wrote
>The examples given are just ... examples, they don't pretend to define in any
>absolute way what is a "simple thesaurus" or a "simple taxonomy" or a
>"simple terminology". At the opposite, they provide a way for any other
>community of users, or set of applications, to specify what they understand
>and manage.

As I am not an "RDF techie" I'll not comment on that aspect, but would
just like to suggest some changes in the examples, because they contain
several invalid relationships that I would not like to see propagated.

At present it appears to me that you have the relationships (if I may
avoid the complexity of RDF by expressing them in a variation of
conventional thesaurus form, assuming English as the default language):

fr      Humidité
UF-fr   Hygrométrie
UF      Moisture
BT      Measurement

UF      Measure
NT      Wetness

fr      Hygrométrie
UF      Moisture level
UF-fr   Taux d'humidité
DEF-fr  Mesure du taux d'humidité dans l'atmosphère
DEF     Measurement of the moisture level in the atmosphere

Wetness is a property of materials, and not a kind, part or instance of
the activity "measurement" or of the material "moisture".

Hygrometry is an activity, and therefore could be considered a kind of
measurement, but it is not a broader term of the property measured.

"Measure" is ambiguous - it might be the result of a measurement
activity, or a measuring instrument, or a part of the verb "to measure",
not normally acceptable in a thesaurus.

If you want to retain this example, a better set of relationships would

UF      humidity
        moisture level
UF-fr   humidité
        taux d'humidité
RT      moisture

NT      hygrometry
NT-fr   hygrométrie

fr      hygrométrie
BT      measurement
RT      wetness
DEF     Measurement of the moisture level in the atmosphere
DEF-fr  Mesure du taux d'humidité dans l'atmosphère

RT      wetness

Sorry to be pedantic about something which is not the main point that
you were wishing to illustrate, but I thought it best to clear it up now
in case your example is developed and incorporated in further documents.

Best wishes


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