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Re: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] public/private notes

From: Mark van Assem <mark@cs.vu.nl>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:51:13 +0200
Message-ID: <42C44D31.9090609@cs.vu.nl>
To: "Miles, AJ \(Alistair\)" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
CC: public-esw-thes@w3.org

Hi,

(catching up on the mailing list from being away for a while)

The reason is clear, but how would the proposed new solution look 
like? Each note-property refers to a blank node, which itself has two 
props linking the actual note and the dcterms:audience? (I suspect 
that's what you mean with "(where the note is represented as a related 
resource description or a document reference)."

Mark.


Miles, AJ (Alistair) wrote:
> This proposal opened:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/proposals#notes-2
> 
> How does that look?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Al.
> 
> 
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> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
>>[mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Miles, AJ 
>>(Alistair)
>>Sent: 14 June 2005 14:59
>>To: Houghton,Andrew
>>Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org
>>Subject: RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] public/private notes
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Andy,
>>
>>Yes, this is exactly what I had in mind :)
>>
>>Al.
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Houghton,Andrew [mailto:houghtoa@oclc.org]
>>>Sent: 13 June 2005 19:03
>>>To: Miles, AJ (Alistair); public-esw-thes@w3.org
>>>Subject: RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] public/private notes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org 
>>>>[mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Miles, 
>>>>AJ (Alistair)
>>>>Sent: 13 June, 2005 12:32
>>>>To: public-esw-thes@w3.org
>>>>Subject: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] public/private notes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>b) Re the discussion of public versus private notes, I 
>>>>
>>>>agree you can't 
>>>>
>>>>>lay this down from above. For example, definitions 
>>
>>could be made 
>>
>>>>>public for one audience, private for another.
>>>>
>>>>I propose that the skos:publicNote and skos:privateNote 
>>>>properties be deprecated, and replaced by a single property 
>>>>e.g. 'skos:note'.
>>>>
>>>>The audience of a note may then be specified by using the 
>>>>dcterms:audience property.
>>>>
>>>>Any objections to me opening this as a proposal on 
>>>>http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/proposals
>>>
>>>Currently in the 10 May 2005 draft these properties have a 
>>
>>hierarchy:
>>
>>>skos:publicNote
>>>  skos:definition
>>>  skos:scopeNote
>>>  skos:example
>>>  skos:historyNote
>>>
>>>skos:privateNote
>>>  skos:editorialNote
>>>  skos:changeNote
>>>
>>>So it sounds like your proposal is to change the hierarchy to:
>>>
>>>skos:note
>>>  skos:definition
>>>  skos:scopeNote
>>>  skos:example
>>>  skos:historyNote
>>>  skos:editorialNote
>>>  skos:changeNote
>>>
>>>I'm also assuming that skos:note will allow you to make 
>>>additional note types, just like publicNote and privateNote 
>>>did.  In addition, if you want to specify dcterms:audience, 
>>>then you will have to use the second (documentation as a 
>>>related resource description) method.
>>>
>>>If I understand the proposal correctly, then I feel this 
>>>would be a positive change.  In looking at SKOS in relation 
>>>to the DDC, we have struggled with SKOS note types, since 
>>>there are well over 100 different note types in DDC with 
>>>varying degrees of "public-ness" or "private-ness" for 
>>>licensees and translators.
>>>
>>>
>>>Andy.
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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  Mark F.J. van Assem - Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
        mark@cs.vu.nl - http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mark
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