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RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] public/private notes

From: Miles, AJ \(Alistair\) <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:47:25 +0100
Message-ID: <F5839D944C66C049BDB45F4C1E3DF89DEE9E26@exchange31.fed.cclrc.ac.uk>
To: "Mark van Assem" <mark@cs.vu.nl>
Cc: <public-esw-thes@w3.org>

> The reason is clear, but how would the proposed new solution look 
> like? Each note-property refers to a blank node, which itself has two 
> props linking the actual note and the dcterms:audience? (I suspect 
> that's what you mean with "(where the note is represented as 
> a related 
> resource description or a document reference)."

Yep, if you wanted to specify the audience of a note, you would do e.g.:

foo:x a skos:Concept;
  skos:definition [
    rdf:value 'foo bar.';
    dcterms:audience 'public';
  ];
.

Cheers,

Al.

> 
> Mark.
> 
> 
> Miles, AJ (Alistair) wrote:
> > This proposal opened:
> > 
> > http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/proposals#notes-2
> > 
> > How does that look?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Al.
> > 
> > 
> > ---
> > Alistair Miles
> > Research Associate
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> >>[mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Miles, AJ 
> >>(Alistair)
> >>Sent: 14 June 2005 14:59
> >>To: Houghton,Andrew
> >>Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> >>Subject: RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] public/private notes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi Andy,
> >>
> >>Yes, this is exactly what I had in mind :)
> >>
> >>Al.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Houghton,Andrew [mailto:houghtoa@oclc.org]
> >>>Sent: 13 June 2005 19:03
> >>>To: Miles, AJ (Alistair); public-esw-thes@w3.org
> >>>Subject: RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] public/private notes
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org 
> >>>>[mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Miles, 
> >>>>AJ (Alistair)
> >>>>Sent: 13 June, 2005 12:32
> >>>>To: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> >>>>Subject: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] public/private notes
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>b) Re the discussion of public versus private notes, I 
> >>>>
> >>>>agree you can't 
> >>>>
> >>>>>lay this down from above. For example, definitions 
> >>
> >>could be made 
> >>
> >>>>>public for one audience, private for another.
> >>>>
> >>>>I propose that the skos:publicNote and skos:privateNote 
> >>>>properties be deprecated, and replaced by a single property 
> >>>>e.g. 'skos:note'.
> >>>>
> >>>>The audience of a note may then be specified by using the 
> >>>>dcterms:audience property.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any objections to me opening this as a proposal on 
> >>>>http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/proposals
> >>>
> >>>Currently in the 10 May 2005 draft these properties have a 
> >>
> >>hierarchy:
> >>
> >>>skos:publicNote
> >>>  skos:definition
> >>>  skos:scopeNote
> >>>  skos:example
> >>>  skos:historyNote
> >>>
> >>>skos:privateNote
> >>>  skos:editorialNote
> >>>  skos:changeNote
> >>>
> >>>So it sounds like your proposal is to change the hierarchy to:
> >>>
> >>>skos:note
> >>>  skos:definition
> >>>  skos:scopeNote
> >>>  skos:example
> >>>  skos:historyNote
> >>>  skos:editorialNote
> >>>  skos:changeNote
> >>>
> >>>I'm also assuming that skos:note will allow you to make 
> >>>additional note types, just like publicNote and privateNote 
> >>>did.  In addition, if you want to specify dcterms:audience, 
> >>>then you will have to use the second (documentation as a 
> >>>related resource description) method.
> >>>
> >>>If I understand the proposal correctly, then I feel this 
> >>>would be a positive change.  In looking at SKOS in relation 
> >>>to the DDC, we have struggled with SKOS note types, since 
> >>>there are well over 100 different note types in DDC with 
> >>>varying degrees of "public-ness" or "private-ness" for 
> >>>licensees and translators.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Andy.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> 
> -- 
>   Mark F.J. van Assem - Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
>         mark@cs.vu.nl - http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mark
> 
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