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RE: Comments on SKOS Core Guide & Quick Guide

From: Miles, AJ (Alistair) <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:22:01 -0000
Message-ID: <F5839D944C66C049BDB45F4C1E3DF89D18DB3F@exchange31.fed.cclrc.ac.uk>
To: 'Thomas Baker' <thomas.baker@bi.fhg.de>
Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org

I totally support this idea from Tom.  


> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Thomas Baker
> Sent: 17 January 2005 08:26
> To: Mark van Assem
> Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org; public-swbp-wg@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Comments on SKOS Core Guide & Quick Guide
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 05:47:09PM +0100, Mark van Assem wrote:
> > A general comment is that I'm curious about the 
> relationship of SKOS to
> > standards (e.g. for thesauri). For example, was ISO 2788 an 
> inspiration?
> > Why have some things from ISO gone in SKOS Core and others not (e.g.
> > compound terms)? Reference is made to BS8723. Is this a 
> standard of the 
> > British Standards group (http://www.bsi-global.com)? I 
> haven't been able 
> > to find a standard with this code on that website.
> 
> Mark's point is consistent with what I was driving at in my
> own review [1]:
> 
> >   But is the SKOS Core Guide really primarily about a
> >   vocabulary?  Or is it really about a particular data
> >   model based, in turn, on the RDF model?  Reducing SKOS
> >   Core to the vocabulary alone seems a bit like reducing
> >   RDF to "The RDF Vocabulary".  Saying that SKOS Core is a
> >   "supporting" vocabulary makes one ask: supporting what?
> >
> >   Rather, describing SKOS Core as a "model" for expressing
> >   knowledge organization structures such as thesauri could
> >   perhaps correct this narrow perspective, shifting the
> >   reader's attention to the model of entities being described
> >   ("skos:Concepts" and relationships between them) and how
> >   the vocabulary "supports" that model.
> 
> In other words, one might repackage SKOS not primarily as a
> "vocabulary" but as a "thesaurus model".  In presenting that
> model, the documentation could specify how the SKOS model
> relates to the ISO and BSI standards cited above.
> 
> Shifting the emphasis from the "vocabulary" to the "model"
> might help avoid some of the confusion involved in describing
> a vocabulary (SKOS Core) that is used to describe vocabularies
> (the thesauri)...
> 
> Tom
> 
> [1] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Dec/0117.html
> 
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