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RE: pls keep Concepts and documents disjoint

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:30:15 -0500
To: "Miles, AJ (Alistair)" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
Cc: 'Dan Brickley' <danbri@w3.org>, Dave Reynolds <der@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, "'public-esw-thes@w3.org'" <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1095874214.6086.922.camel@dirk>

On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 09:35, Miles, AJ (Alistair) wrote:
> The thing is, I agree with ...
> 
> > > However, I would suggest that the SKOS guide should be 
> > neutral on all this 
> > > allowing developers to chose the form of URI that best fits 
> > their needs.
> 
> ... but the new SKOS Core Guide and Vocab Spec (under development) are going
> to have lots of examples, and if the rest of the world is anything like me,
> they won't read anything else but the examples.

Quite; my comment is certainly a result of skipping right to the
"hello world" example.

[...]
> > > would make sense to have a section or appendix referring to 
> > the controversy 
> > > over use of slash v. hash so that developers are aware of 
> > the issues and 
> > > options. However, it doesn't seem appropriate for SKOS to 
> > mandate one 
> > > approach above the other given there are reasonable 
> > arguments and existing 
> > > practice on both sides.
> > 
> > +1
> 
> +1 from me too ... and I'm hoping we can point to a note from the SWBP-WG
> Vocab Management TF for this (passing the buck :)

I don't think you can pass the buck because this isn't about
URIs for just anything, it's about URIs for concepts and
concept schemes. It seems worth saying that concepts and
documents are disjoint.

I started thinking about text along the lines of "note that
if you use a hash-less HTTP URI for a concept, you can't also
use that URI to mean a web page without saying that the concept
and the web page are identical"

And then I realized this is
the subject of a pretty interesting discussion in the ESW wiki,
and I thought I'd refactor things until I had some text that
you could use... then I discovered that it's more work
than I have energy for just now. Perhaps later.

Meanwhile, I think
  http://esw.w3.org/topic/HashURI
tells part of the story reasonably well.



>   See also [2].
> 
> Al.
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/examples/Concept.rdf.xml
> [2] http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/metadata/dcmi/term-identifier-guidelines/

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